tell me bout my car...please

[Hollonator]

This is my 1970 Chrysler 300, only picture I have til I see it again in 3 weeks. Little history...I inherited the car from my grandfather Jack Hollon February 23, 2007 (yes this is the 3 year mark) after a tragic event that took place February 14, 2007. It still hits hard everyday...it hits so hard that it took me this long to hardly even wanna look at the car even though I knew I would never get rid of it, let alone want to learn more about the car. I have always been 150% Mopar and always been about trucks. I do know how to work on this car and restore it which one day in the distant future I intend to do. But I don't know anything specific. I know it's a 1970 Chrysler 300 4 door, 440c.i. 4-barrel. I know it has approximately 32,000 original miles (no rollover) and has been garage kept it's entire life, including now. It is so original that 2 of the tires on the car are from out the factory as well as the battery (how it still holds a charge beats me but it starts everytime). I also know that even after sittin for nearly 20 years that it only took a general tune-up, carberater cleaning, and valve cover gasket and it runs perfect (that was 3 years ago) and I also know that now it starts and runs perfectly even though it has been drivien less than 500 total miles in the past 3 years after that tune-up. The car has been in my family since day 1. My dad's great-uncle henry bought it brand new in 1970, he sold it to my great-grandfather, my ganpa inherited it just as I did 3 years ago. It has never seen ONE SINGLE NIGHT outside of the garage, has never been driven in anything but perfectly clear sunny weather. It is in immaculate condition and it won 1st place in a car show about 19 months ago with the factory paint and interior and everything. What I don't know is body type (A, B, C, E, etc.) or any kind of specific information. No offense but I don't wanna know what you think you know, I wanna know what you know. All facts and specifications are greatly appreciated, everything including body type, performance, weight, down to the lug bolt pattern. Thanks

[mopardrt]

Well First of It is a Beautiful car second its NOT and A body. A bodys are your darts demons valiants barracudas and dusters and scamps B bodys are your chargers coronets roadrunners satellites E bodys are challengers and CUDAs and late model barracudas C body Is what you have Newports 300s New yorkers furys monacos and polaras just a quick mopar alphabet lesson. and your best bet would be to check out wikipedia and just search 1970 chrysler 300 and Im sure there are alot of C body guys running around here, I myslef am an A body guys so I dont fool around with those BIG OLE C bodys but I would love to own a 2 door 440 bigblock 300 one day Great car once again and thanks for serving!

[sgnrulz]

Sweet Car.
Its a C body car.
Assuming its close to my cars spec.(same gen c body)
about 4300 pounds the 440 was probably rated at 350 horsepower that year I could be wrong.

[theomahamoparguy]

A somewhat rare car indeed, especially if it is "unrestored". You did know that there is a special section at the mopar nationals for unrestored cars. Called the "survivor tent". I'll bet this car would fit in this section. There was a somewhat even rarer 300 called the "300 Hurst". The deignation 300 came from the fact that the chrysler was the first american made production car to make 300 horse power. back in the mid 50's. Has a 440 HP motor, a very strong 727. Gigantic brakes, airconditioning all kinds of options. TRy to keep it all original

[Hollonator]

when i restore this car it will be 100% original down to the hubcaps (got all them too) the only thing i MIGHT change is exhaust...but it will still have the drum brakes and everything and be the sam puke green color inside and out...it did not know about mopar nationals thing i will definitely check that out...i have no idea how much this thing is worth, not as much as a 2door convertible or a hurst i know...but i do know that when i was trailering this car home (750+ mile trip) i stopped at a gas station and a middle aged man asked me what i had under the tarp, as soon as i showed him he knew exactly what it was. when i told him how original it was and untouched he offered me $150,000 firm...i told him he couldnt give me the entire world for this car and continued on my journey...i dont know if its worth that much or if he was a idiot, who knows...

[Zach8200]

nice car you dont see many like that around here in Michigan the last one i seen was in someones yard for 2000 dollars but it needed allot of tlc you are very lucky to have such a cool car welcome to the Mopar Forums

[mopardrt]

that car might be worth 30,000$ maby prob not those cars are right up there with the 64-66 barracudas and furys and newports the market isint there yet

[Crazy4Carz.Com]

Originally Posted by mopardrt

that car might be worth 30,000$ maby prob not those cars are right up there with the 64-66 barracudas and furys and newports the market isint there yet

ARE YOU ON CRACK???? $30,000????????? IT'S A NICE CAR BUT IT IS A 4 DOOR BOAT! NO OFFENSE BUT 5 THOUSAND MAYBE. THIS 300 CONV WAS HAD FOR UNDER 10.

[Hollonator]

yea i know the cudas and challengers are up there real high, especially numbers matching. like i said i dont know what my car is worth...dont even really care cause im not selling it, but is do know that is what the guy offered me

[Skwerly]

I'm thinking nobody offered you 150k for the car lol.

NICE ride, though. I bet that 440 feels great.

[67 GTX]

you have a c-body
that 440 in 70 was rated at 375 at 4600 rpm
the 350 hp was done away with in 66 or 67 i believe
your car is heavy: probably 4300-4700 pounds
since it is a chrysler, you probably have either a 2:75, 2:94, or a 3:23 rear end

[Hollonator]

i dont mean to be rude Skwerly but i dont like to be called a liar i find that pretty offensive seeing as you dont know me or nothing about me or what has been discussed about this car so i would appreciate it if u dont refer to me as a liar again. thank you

[67 GTX]

Originally Posted by Hollonator

i dont mean to be rude Skwerly but i dont like to be called a liar i find that pretty offensive seeing as you dont know me or nothing about me or what has been discussed about this car so i would appreciate it if u dont refer to me as a liar again. thank you

calm down
he was just joking

[rexus31]

Originally Posted by Hollonator

he offered me $150,000 firm...i told him he couldnt give me the entire world for this car and continued on my journey...i dont know if its worth that much or if he was a idiot, who knows...

He was an idiot. Four door C Bodies do not bring any money at all. You'd be hard pressed to get $10K for your car. With that said, I'm sure you cannot put a price on the sentimental value. Chances are if you snapped right back at your tire kicker, "SOLD!" he would have back peddled, big time. I've got a '65 300 Convertible that I took all the way down and it's 95% complete. When complete it will be showroom new. They made a little over 1,400 of these and I would be lucky to get $25K for my car. Then again, I didn't restore it to sell it. By comparison, Chrysler made a ton of '70 300 4 doors. At any rate, it's a cool car; good luck with it. Check out some of these C Body specific sites:

www.cbodydrydock.com
www.moparfins.com
www.cbodyhomeport.yuku.com

[sgp7679]

i dont know, im thinking that you didnt get offered 150k either.

[64polara]

Originally Posted by rexus31

He was an idiot. Four door C Bodies do not bring any money at all. You'd be hard pressed to get $10K for your car. With that said, I'm sure you cannot put a price on the sentimental value. Chances are if you snapped right back at your tire kicker, "SOLD!" he would have back peddled, big time. I've got a '65 300 Convertible that I took all the way down and it's 95% complete. When complete it will be showroom new. They made a little over 1,400 of these and I would be lucky to get $25K for my car. Then again, I didn't restore it to sell it. By comparison, Chrysler made a ton of '70 300 4 doors. At any rate, it's a cool car; good luck with it. Check out some of these C Body specific sites:

www.cbodydrydock.com
www.moparfins.com
www.cbodyhomeport.yuku.com

i agree with the idea of building something with out the thought of how much it is worth money wise. you wont get any closer to a car than taking it all a part and putting it back together.

my car might only be worth $1000, but sentimentally its worth a lot more to me being my first car. now if only people would pay sentimental value haha.

also, beautiful car. i love the big heavy boats. weekend cruisa'!

[Hollonator]

well like i said i dont mean to be rude but i am touchy/edgy with that car and anything else that slightly reminds me of my granpa...to those of you who choose to be judgemental and form your own theory as to how situation of which you were not a part of happened, be my guest. everyone is entitled to your own opinion and i dont really give a good god damn about anyones thoughts about this car except granpas and my dads...so go ahead and continue to formyour own theories...matter of fact heres one, this car came from the heavens and landed on earth as a meteor and i had to chisle it out of the center, i call this "The Big Bang Theory" what ya think? and one more thing if you wanna call me a liar dont unless you get the chance to say it to my face, i havent worked with my dad my entire life to build the reputation our shop has just to have it thrown back in my face. i say this as calmly as i can and hope i didnt offend no one...just speak whats on my mind, no need to sugar coat it.

[mopardrt]

Originally Posted by Crazy4Carz.Com

ARE YOU ON CRACK???? $30,000????????? IT'S A NICE CAR BUT IT IS A 4 DOOR BOAT! NO OFFENSE BUT 5 THOUSAND MAYBE. THIS 300 CONV WAS HAD FOR UNDER 10.

Hey I was just trying to make the guy feel better. I guess it is worth only that im an A body guy man!

[67 GTX]

OK
Cool it guys
no need to argue
we are all mopar guys here

[mopardrt]

Originally Posted by 67 GTX

OK
Cool it guys
no need to argue
we are all mopar guys here

YA what he said

[volaredon]

I hate to say this but IF I were offered $150K for that car I would have JUMPED at it' as your Grandpa would have, your uncle would have; I can see them waiting at the Gates for you, saying "You fool"

[Hollonator]

sentimental value...its the ONLY thing i have from my family due to a house fire december 7, 2006...go ahead and show me a check for $2 million...you can keep it i will continue to work and earn my money as i always have just so i can keep this car

[67 GTX]

Ok, guys, lets drop how much the car is worth and get back to helping him
do you need anymore info. on your car?

[Hollonator]

anything you can tell me really...were these classified with any sub-model? for example the dart came as swinger, demon, etc...

[Hollonator]

o yea for anyone who wants to know i posted more pics of the White Knight (Warlock)

[ppsi1216]

I have a 1970 300 convertible. There were about 1025 made. It is a 2 door and I did not think there was a 4-door available so I learned something. The car came with 2 engine options-a 440 and a 440HP. From my understanding the HP was rated at "357"HP and the 440 was 350hp. I know the cam in not the same in the 2 engines. Mine is an original California car with 60K on it was painted by the previous owner. It is black with a red interior and and white top.
These cars were called Chryslers "full size muscle car". I have had some problems with mine such as gas flooding/boiling due to under hood heat building up after turning the car off for maybe 1/2 hour and trying to restart it. I am in the process of replacing the carb, fuel lines and putting a spacer under the carb. MAKE SURE YOU DO THE AMMETER BYPASS!

[67 GTX]

Originally Posted by ppsi1216

I have a 1970 300 convertible. There were about 1025 made. It is a 2 door and I did not think there was a 4-door available so I learned something. The car came with 2 engine options-a 440 and a 440HP. From my understanding the HP was rated at "357"HP and the 440 was 350hp. I know the cam in not the same in the 2 engines. Mine is an original California car with 60K on it was painted by the previous owner. It is black with a red interior and and white top.
These cars were called Chryslers "full size muscle car". I have had some problems with mine such as gas flooding/boiling due to under hood heat building up after turning the car off for maybe 1/2 hour and trying to restart it. I am in the process of replacing the carb, fuel lines and putting a spacer under the carb. MAKE SURE YOU DO THE AMMETER BYPASS!

are you referring to vapor lock?
you don't need to replace you carb.
all you probably need to do is relocate the fuel line

[Skwerly]

Yea, I relocated a line on a car that was vapor locking and problem solved. Just route it away from hot surfaces and you should notice a big difference.

[ppsi1216]

Well the carb on my 300 was shot anyway. I did reroute the fuel line and also put in a 1" spacer. Too bad Jegs didn't inform me I also needed throttle/kickdown linkage adapter so it is still not up and running. When I ran it for until hot (not driving down the road) and shut it off it restarted after a peiod of time that would have normally caused it to not start.
Would I be well advised to put a new style starter on this engine?
I also made up a 2AWG set of battery cables. The original positive cable was almost 6' long and was maybe #4 wire. More likely #6.

[cbody70]

The car is great. Don't know why you want to restore something that is a pristine survivor though. Tune it, safety it and enjoy it as is. My .02.