Golden Lion

aaron501420 · 01-27-2009, 05:49 PM

I was fortunate enough to find an old Chrysler that I believe to be very rare, but I am not having any luck finding information on it. If anyone has any information or can point me in the right direction, it would be great.

It is a Golden Lion, but it appears to have a 383 RB (yeah, I know...). The motor has a crossram intake and the red valve covers say "Golden Lion 383." The car has more automatic accessories than I can count, and a pushbuton automatic trans. I think it is a 1957, but I could be wrong.

I know this isn't much, but that's why I'm looking for more information! Specifically, what years did Chrysler make the 383 RB amd how can you tell the difference between the RB and the B?

67 GTX · 01-27-2009, 08:29 PM

welcome to the forum

i thought that the 383 RB engine was made in the early-mid sixties in canada because of their taxes on bigger engines

the RB engine came out in the early sixties

aaron501420 · 01-27-2009, 09:28 PM

They were produced mainly in Canada, but Chrysler supposedly put a few (VERY few) in the Golden Lions between '58 and '60. The only reason I think it may be the super rare 383 RB is because the only post-firepower hemi (late 50s) golden lions I have found have the 413 RB. I'm not even sure they were offered with the standard 383 B. It's deffinately a 383, though, because like I said before, it's clearly printed on the valve covers.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...sler-RB-engine

These cars were offered with so many options. I read in Mopar Power Mag that some were even offered adjustable air-bag rear suspension. This particular car even has a power adjustable rear-view mirror!!! That has to be the most pointless, but craziest option I've ever seen.

66sportfury · 01-27-2009, 09:43 PM

yes the RB 383 was offerd for only 3 years 58-59&60 you can tell an rb by the raised pad thats just in front of the valley pan

Polaradude · 01-28-2009, 04:00 AM

The Golden Lion was produced in 59-60, It's a 383 RB block with a casting # 2120329.

aaron501420 · 01-29-2009, 05:01 PM

Thanks, thats exactly what I needed to know. I'm supposed to pick the car up soon and I'll check it out when I do.

Does anybody know how many Lions they made with the 383RB? Also, what is the approx. value of this car? The body is completely straight with minimal rust, but the interior is nothing but springs and rat's nests. Everything on the car looks original and the only thing it is missing is the two quads, air filters, and virturally everything made out of rubber. It really is in great shape considering it has been sitting under a tree for god knows how long. The gold paint is even mostly intact and it has big red lions painted down both sides. I have not been able to find a picture of one painted like this, which leads me to believe it may be a special edition or something.

I'm really excited about finding this old chrysler, and I'll try to get some pictures up as soon as possible.

66sportfury · 01-29-2009, 06:59 PM

all i can find for golden lion it the 383 and 413 engine. cannot find a car called golden lion. i found cars with golden lion emblems but thats to brag about the engine

Zach8200 · 01-29-2009, 07:14 PM

I found this picture here its got the lion on the side but i have no idea its just a hard top coupe to me

66sportfury · 01-29-2009, 07:51 PM

thats a chrysler windsor

67 GTX · 01-29-2009, 09:01 PM

ya, thats a windsor

Polaradude · 01-30-2009, 03:30 AM

The rarest of the "Lions" is a 390 Hp model that was exported to be the power plant in French Facel-Vegas, if you can believe that.

67 GTX · 01-30-2009, 08:56 AM

aaron501420, do you have any pics of your car?

mopar380 · 12-24-2009, 01:00 PM

The RB 383 engine was never built in Canada. Canada only had the LB383 engines. The RB 383 was used only in 1959-1960 on US built Chrysler Windsor and Saratoga. The Windsor received a 2 barrel, while the Saratoga received a 4-barrel. If your car has cross rams they were added later. The Chryslers with cross rams all used th3 RB 413 engine. Dodges, DeSoto and Plymouth that were equipped with Cross Rams had a 361, LB 383, or a 413 engine but none were ever installed on a RB 383.

canadianwindsor · 01-30-2010, 08:54 PM

Golden Lion is not a model name. I think it just refers to what Chrysler called some of their engines in the late 50s-early 60s; 361-383-413.

All models, Newport, Windsor, Saratoga, New Yorker had Golden Lion Engines during that period.

What could make it more rare than other coveted Mopars from that period: accessories/options and lack of rust.

Check out "Mopar380"s website http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/category-view.asp
It covers those years and the people on the forum can provide all the infomation that you can handle.

01-27-2009, 05:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
aaron501420 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Little Rock Posts: 6	Golden Lion I was fortunate enough to find an old Chrysler that I believe to be very rare, but I am not having any luck finding information on it. If anyone has any information or can point me in the right direction, it would be great. It is a Golden Lion, but it appears to have a 383 RB (yeah, I know...). The motor has a crossram intake and the red valve covers say "Golden Lion 383." The car has more automatic accessories than I can count, and a pushbuton automatic trans. I think it is a 1957, but I could be wrong. I know this isn't much, but that's why I'm looking for more information! Specifically, what years did Chrysler make the 383 RB amd how can you tell the difference between the RB and the B?

01-27-2009, 08:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
67 GTX Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brooklyn, N.Y. Posts: 4,831	welcome to the forum i thought that the 383 RB engine was made in the early-mid sixties in canada because of their taxes on bigger engines the RB engine came out in the early sixties __________________ 1967 Plymouth GTX 440/4-Speed/Dana 60

01-27-2009, 09:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
66sportfury A.K.A bob dodge Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: spokane w.a. Posts: 385	yes the RB 383 was offerd for only 3 years 58-59&60 you can tell an rb by the raised pad thats just in front of the valley pan __________________ this just in 16.9 @ 80mph is NOT fast!

01-28-2009, 04:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
Polaradude Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: East Coast Canada Posts: 2,239	The Golden Lion was produced in 59-60, It's a 383 RB block with a casting # 2120329. __________________

01-29-2009, 06:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
66sportfury A.K.A bob dodge Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: spokane w.a. Posts: 385	all i can find for golden lion it the 383 and 413 engine. cannot find a car called golden lion. i found cars with golden lion emblems but thats to brag about the engine __________________ this just in 16.9 @ 80mph is NOT fast!

01-27-2009, 09:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
aaron501420 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Little Rock Posts: 6	They were produced mainly in Canada, but Chrysler supposedly put a few (VERY few) in the Golden Lions between '58 and '60. The only reason I think it may be the super rare 383 RB is because the only post-firepower hemi (late 50s) golden lions I have found have the 413 RB. I'm not even sure they were offered with the standard 383 B. It's deffinately a 383, though, because like I said before, it's clearly printed on the valve covers. http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...sler-RB-engine These cars were offered with so many options. I read in Mopar Power Mag that some were even offered adjustable air-bag rear suspension. This particular car even has a power adjustable rear-view mirror!!! That has to be the most pointless, but craziest option I've ever seen.

01-29-2009, 05:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
aaron501420 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Little Rock Posts: 6	Thanks, thats exactly what I needed to know. I'm supposed to pick the car up soon and I'll check it out when I do. Does anybody know how many Lions they made with the 383RB? Also, what is the approx. value of this car? The body is completely straight with minimal rust, but the interior is nothing but springs and rat's nests. Everything on the car looks original and the only thing it is missing is the two quads, air filters, and virturally everything made out of rubber. It really is in great shape considering it has been sitting under a tree for god knows how long. The gold paint is even mostly intact and it has big red lions painted down both sides. I have not been able to find a picture of one painted like this, which leads me to believe it may be a special edition or something. I'm really excited about finding this old chrysler, and I'll try to get some pictures up as soon as possible.

01-29-2009, 07:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
66sportfury A.K.A bob dodge Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: spokane w.a. Posts: 385	thats a chrysler windsor __________________ this just in 16.9 @ 80mph is NOT fast! Last edited by 66sportfury; 01-29-2009 at 09:16 PM. Reason: the L

01-29-2009, 09:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
67 GTX Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brooklyn, N.Y. Posts: 4,831	ya, thats a windsor __________________ 1967 Plymouth GTX 440/4-Speed/Dana 60

01-30-2009, 03:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
Polaradude Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: East Coast Canada Posts: 2,239	The rarest of the "Lions" is a 390 Hp model that was exported to be the power plant in French Facel-Vegas, if you can believe that. __________________

01-30-2009, 08:56 AM	#12 (permalink)
67 GTX Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brooklyn, N.Y. Posts: 4,831	aaron501420, do you have any pics of your car? __________________ 1967 Plymouth GTX 440/4-Speed/Dana 60

12-24-2009, 01:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
mopar380 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Victoria, BC Canada, on Vancouver Island Posts: 5	The RB 383 engine was never built in Canada. Canada only had the LB383 engines. The RB 383 was used only in 1959-1960 on US built Chrysler Windsor and Saratoga. The Windsor received a 2 barrel, while the Saratoga received a 4-barrel. If your car has cross rams they were added later. The Chryslers with cross rams all used th3 RB 413 engine. Dodges, DeSoto and Plymouth that were equipped with Cross Rams had a 361, LB 383, or a 413 engine but none were ever installed on a RB 383. __________________ Ian on a Pacific Island My Car Album

01-30-2010, 08:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
canadianwindsor Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 4	Golden Lion is not a model name. I think it just refers to what Chrysler called some of their engines in the late 50s-early 60s; 361-383-413. All models, Newport, Windsor, Saratoga, New Yorker had Golden Lion Engines during that period. What could make it more rare than other coveted Mopars from that period: accessories/options and lack of rust. Check out "Mopar380"s website http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/category-view.asp It covers those years and the people on the forum can provide all the infomation that you can handle. Last edited by canadianwindsor; 01-30-2010 at 09:06 PM.

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