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craveman 03-14-2009 06:30 AM

fuel pump?
 
ive had a few posts about my fifth avenue but now i have another problem. it takes a long time to start. now when i started it this morning (which took forever) it didnt run right. when holding the accelerator pedal all the way down it puts along at 15 mph. everything in the ignition is brand new and the spark plugs were changed 2 days ago. the choke is opperating properly but it doesnt want to go. i think its the fuel pump but not sure. the fuel filter is also brand new. It ran perfectly yesterday so im in a bit of a boggle. also when i first put it into drive or reverse it wants to stall. HELP ME PLEASE!

craveman 03-14-2009 07:18 AM

New developement on my situation. i started the car and put my timing light on the number 1 cylinder. it was not sparking, i checked all the other ones and 5 of them were not firing but as i was checking they started to fire up. now all 8 are running ok except at higher engine speeds then it seems to sputter. any ideas?

Polaradude 03-14-2009 09:12 AM

are your plug boots all the way on the plugs and dizzy.

craveman 03-15-2009 07:17 AM

yes sir they are. i think my dizzy may be no good but when i get my car running and can get back home ill put in one of my other ones i have laying around
its got spark in some plugs but not all lof them so i think the points on the dizzy may not be gapped properly but then why would a few of them work and not all? after about 5 mins of idling they all are working fine but its very hard to get started. battery and alternator are putting out enough voltage so i know thats not the case. ive checked all electrical connections in it too. im about ready to put a chevy 454 in this damn thing

Polaradude 03-15-2009 07:48 AM

Cheby 454, Now thats just crazy talk.
Ya it sounds like dizzy problems.

67 GTX 03-15-2009 08:15 AM

whats a cheby?
lol

craveman 03-15-2009 12:57 PM

changed the dizzy no change in effects. now no longer getting spark to the dizzy either. got a new ecu gonna try that. i took out the lean burn a long time ago due to the problems it had. but the back of the ecu wasnt melted as i thought it would be. i put it in and have spark to the other dizzy i have but i have to charge the battery because it doesnt have enough juice to turn the engine fast enough.

craveman 03-16-2009 05:23 AM

still wont start

Polaradude 03-16-2009 05:43 AM

Could you have a bad connection through the firewall at the plug ?

craveman 03-16-2009 11:57 AM

checked everything several times with new computer and distributor still no luck. think maybe something is wrong with my cap and rotor again. i got it putting juice to the dizzy again but it only does it on a few plugs

Polaradude 03-16-2009 12:56 PM

Sounds like your going in the right direction. keep us posted. I hate electrical gremlins.

craveman 03-16-2009 07:14 PM

put in a new cap and rotor. it starts now. set the timing but doesnt seem to be firing right. i tried different plugs this time and it doesnt want to spark. spark is getting through the wires. but these plugs dont seem to work at the needed gapping so i think when i get my better plugs it will be ok. the problem seemed to be the cap and rotor with less than 500 miles on them. no visible problems but its the last thing i could change. guess ill be taking that back to advanced.

Polaradude 03-17-2009 02:05 AM

What gap are ya running?

craveman 03-17-2009 05:53 AM

0.35". it was running but like shit. i got back home and this morning i checked the plugs. on 1 the gap was squeezed shut and another had melted the little tab and the electrode. i put new plugs in again but now the damn thing doesnt want to start again. i think the cap and rotor going bad may have screwed up my engine.

Polaradude 03-17-2009 10:28 AM

If you have a squashed electrode I would HIGHLY suggest a compression test on the cylinder it came out of.

67 GTX 03-17-2009 03:00 PM

agreed

66sportfury 03-17-2009 09:48 PM

sounds like the reach on the plugs are wrong?

craveman 03-18-2009 06:23 AM

i put in different plugs and now it runs fine again. but all the problems with my ignition took a toll on my starter. i went out for st patties day to dd for some friends on the night i turn 21 (sounds wierd but i dont drink). I actually turn 21 today. they wouldnt let me in the bar at 1120 so my friends wanted to leave. i took them back to the town where they live but with 6 people in the fifth ave it rides low and ripped a muffler off. i stopped to pick it up and one of them decided to turn off my car to make a phone call and now it wont start. the starter groans and barely cranks over the engine so now i get to spend most of my birthday fixing my starter on the side of the road and hope thats the only problem. but thanks for all of your help.

Polaradude 03-18-2009 07:59 AM

Happy birthday dude.:D

66sportfury 03-18-2009 09:26 AM

hope you get it figured out.

67 GTX 03-18-2009 05:29 PM

happy birthday
good luck

craveman 03-19-2009 08:12 PM

thanks. seems to be running ok now. now i just need to get the 4bbl and finish my exhaust and ill be all done for now. I just bought a 383 block and crank that im going to start building up. it came with a set of keith black hyperenutic flat top pistons for the .060 and lightweight ibeam connecting rods for 300 bucks! The block has already been cleaned and had an acid bath too. gonna bore it .060 over, big lumpy cam, dual 4bbls, open headers, mill to zero deck, port and polish heads and intake, and maybe some other little goodies

Polaradude 03-20-2009 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by craveman (Post 15615)
thanks. seems to be running ok now. now i just need to get the 4bbl and finish my exhaust and ill be all done for now. I just bought a 383 block and crank that im going to start building up. it came with a set of keith black hyperenutic flat top pistons for the .060 and lightweight ibeam connecting rods for 300 bucks! The block has already been cleaned and had an acid bath too. gonna bore it .060 over, big lumpy cam, dual 4bbls, open headers, mill to zero deck, port and polish heads and intake, and maybe some other little goodies

I hate to be Capt. Buzzkill but you may wanna sell those pistons, that's just my personal opinion. I am sure some folks will say they are great but I am not a big fan of KB's.

craveman 03-20-2009 01:11 PM

im not a big fan of fat girls but they still get the job done just as good as any others. jk im having second thoughts of this whold big block conversion and am thinking that a well built 360 or 340 may be better. but for the price i couldnt go wrong. i can easily get double my money off of ebay for all of this. the pistons themselves were over 400 when bought so i think ill separate and sell it or trade it for a rebuilt 360

67 GTX 03-20-2009 03:50 PM

i've heard nothing but bad stuff about kb pistons

craveman 03-20-2009 07:19 PM

just traded all the motor parts i bought for a 85 ninja 900 in really good shape. yay another thing to get hurt on

67 GTX 03-20-2009 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by craveman (Post 15715)
yay another thing to get hurt on


haha, thats the fun of it:D

craveman 03-20-2009 07:52 PM

i hit a deer on my other bike and it still hurts and i dislocate my shoulder about once a week. they put in a rubber band to try and keep it from doing this and it didnt last too long

67 GTX 03-21-2009 08:24 AM

ouch man
that sucks

craveman 03-21-2009 06:57 PM

theyre gonna operate again in may if it doesnt get better. gonna cut my tendons and shorten them and maybe put some type of swivel in my socket so it can still move but not pop out. probably wouldnt dislocate if i wasnt pounding or cranking on something or lifting heavy stuff


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