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Old 07-19-2009, 02:22 PM   #1
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Steering box, rebuild or replace???

While searching for the cause of shaky ride, I found that my steering box has alot of play in it, I've played with the adjustments on it and can tighten it up a bit.

With the car parked on a flat surface, you can grab the steering column in the engine bay and turn it 1/3 of a turn either way by hand and pull and push it into ad out of the steering box about 3/4"

Is there a rebuild kit out there of these box's? How about a bolt on replacement box, I did a quick web search but could only find a flaming river replacement box at $800, which is a bit more than I can afford!
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Old 07-19-2009, 02:51 PM   #2
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is that a manual or power box?
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is that a manual or power box?
Sorry my Bad! It's a manual box for a 64' Sport Fury

I can find tons of Power Steering box's, but no manual box's so far!
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:29 PM   #4
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there are two adjustments if memory serves me. i think one has to be done with the box out. don't over tighten the other one trying to get all the play out or you might crack the shaft. is there enough lube in the box?
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Forget it. The adjustments are there but a bad idea. The play exists because of wear. Do yourself a HUGE favor and get a quick ratio box. Check out places like firm feel. There are others as well. you can get a steering box that changes the ratio of turs of the steering wheel to the actual movement of the tires. Are you tired of having to turn the steering wheel twenty times from lock to lock (slight exaggeration) You can make it drive and steer like a late model vehicle.

You'll thank me later.
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Would love a firm Feel or Flaming river box, but the $800 CDN it would run me is way out of my price range right now!
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you can get a reman from carquest for about 450.00 but as C4C says you will thank him later so i would try and save the money for a closer ratio one verses a stock one and im sure if you do your home work you will be able to find one about the same price as a reman: but i dont no of any rebuild kit for wear but only seals but i could be wrong but i no the seal kit runs around 40 bucks
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Firm Feel list a rebuild kit with the 24:1 ratio (stock) for $175, just sent of a email to see if it would work with a 64" box.

Firm feel don't offer the fast ratio box's for the b-body.

Are tere any other interchangable box's that would possibly fit?
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since we are on this topic of steering boxs... how easy is it to replace a power steering box? just curious but mine perfectly fine
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and i dont meen the labor i meen to find the part
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do a search at a few of the auto sites. boxes usually cover a bunch of years.
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and i dont meen the labor i meen to find the part
You can find power box's almost anywhere, NAPA carry one, autoZone etc! And a rebuilt one costs about $225 plus core charge!
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Here's a site that hs the worm and gear.. and a lot of other goodies. http://www.jimsautoparts.com/steering_parts.htm


I've bought some weather stripping from them and it was correct and fit good.

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thats good makes me feel more comfortable that they are easy to find
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just get a different one i was having probs with mine took it out like 4 time n tried to fix it bfore i said screw it n went to napa n baught 1
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just get a different one i was having probs with mine took it out like 4 n tried to fix it bfore i said screw it n went to napa n baught 1
I've tried NAPA, they only carry the power steering box, but we did only check under 64' b-body!

Are there later model cars that have a compatable steering box? ie: will a manual box from a 70's or early 80's b-body fit?
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it might its worth i try, i tried pulling one out of a 1970 cuda but the... crab forgot what its called the rod in the middle of the box was to small, but look for one one the same size car and you might have some luck, i shelled out like 280 for my box.... but if you want theres an auto place a mile or so away from n they have some rarecar parts, i picked up a few parts for an 89 supra that had an engine imported from japan, n they seem to have all the parts for it so if you want i can call them and see if they have anything or can find onefor ya
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You can find power box's almost anywhere, NAPA carry one, autoZone etc! And a rebuilt one costs about $225 plus core charge!
just bought one for my 73 b body 135.00....an i still have 5 inches of play before the pitman arm moves, just like the old one...
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This thread is so old............

How old is it?

It is so old it could get antique tags!
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I NEED SOME INFO ON THE 1970 CHALLENGER TA STEERING BOX ALSO,I HAVE A TA AND THE STEERING BOX IS NOT THE TA QUICK RATIO ONE FOLKS ARE DESCRIBING,I HAVE PRT#2267262 IN MY CAR.WERE THESE TA BOXES STANDARD? IS MINE MISSING? PLEASE HELP WHILE I HAVE THE ENGINE OUT RIGHT NOW....SIXXPAC

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The newer box Not sure when it changed ? The splines for the idler arm changed- larger. New box / newer idler They are pretty universal. I swapped the PS box from my 77 RR into a 67 Coronet... Same box as used in my Van.
Not sure who made it ?? There is a re enforcement bracket that can be added to the frame.
Also check the rag joint on the steering column..

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Old 07-18-2012, 11:31 AM   #22
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wat ever you do do it quickly my brothers worn box broke that WAS A SWEET SASY GRASS GREEN ROAD RUNNER
at least hes still alive .
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Power Steering box

Hi, folks! I'm kind of new in this forum (itīs my first post). I recently had my '71 Cuda restored. I replaced my Gemer steering box for a rebuilt one, but even that is not smooth as I expected it to be. Thereīs no play, but it seems that it will lock in one position (I am exagerating a little here).
Has anyone experienced the same problem? Is there any adjustement I could make?
Thanks for your help.
I live in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and find replacement parts down here is quite difficult...
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The adjustment nut is probably too tight or just a bad rebuild. The TA had special idler arms
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