Oil slinger
10-08-2014, 05:50 PM
#1
Oil slinger
Had the oil pan off and noticed the double roller chain had hit the oil slinger
Several marks along one side , like gouges which made shiny marks
Thinking about just taking it off since this is a drag motor.
Only thing I can't see how the chain made the marks that far away , the markings are towards the outer edge. Anyone ever seen this? Thanks.
Several marks along one side , like gouges which made shiny marks
Thinking about just taking it off since this is a drag motor.
Only thing I can't see how the chain made the marks that far away , the markings are towards the outer edge. Anyone ever seen this? Thanks.
10-08-2014, 06:30 PM
#2
i just looked at my 1967 dart / coronet / charger factory service manual. the small block / big block / V8, and my 2001 dak factory service manual the 5.9 / 4.7 engines NONE showed an oil slinger on the crank timing gear.
10-08-2014, 06:41 PM
#3
Well I sure can,t leave it as is. Don,t. See replacing just to have it happen again. Sounds like
they also had no need for it.
Thanks. It looks like it's installed correctly.... just been hitting the chain. Don't know if it's damaged the chain will have to see.
they also had no need for it.
Thanks. It looks like it's installed correctly.... just been hitting the chain. Don't know if it's damaged the chain will have to see.
10-09-2014, 05:20 PM
#5
Yes it looks correct on which way it's installed.
After better examination , the chain is closer to the slinger (touching) on one side and that's the side that has the marks. The chain has dug in on only one side. It looks like it's the chain out of place rather than the slinger.
Maybe the cog has a problem. Looking at the chain it looks a little cocked. It's relation to crank on the back side looks as though it's towards the front on the side that's making contact. I have pics on this phone if I can figure how to post them...
After better examination , the chain is closer to the slinger (touching) on one side and that's the side that has the marks. The chain has dug in on only one side. It looks like it's the chain out of place rather than the slinger.
Maybe the cog has a problem. Looking at the chain it looks a little cocked. It's relation to crank on the back side looks as though it's towards the front on the side that's making contact. I have pics on this phone if I can figure how to post them...
10-10-2014, 04:09 PM
#8
The damper bolt was only about ten pounds. Will pull damper tomorrow.
Look. behind the timing cover so far bolt not torqed properly. If damper is too loose couldn't that cause uneven problems for chain and sprocket......
Look. behind the timing cover so far bolt not torqed properly. If damper is too loose couldn't that cause uneven problems for chain and sprocket......
10-11-2014, 04:32 PM
#11
Thanks. I may have gotten lucky here. Removed that extremely tight fluidamper finally and t-c. Pan everything looks ok.. My builder said only 15/ 20 lbs. For the bolt Because it is a pressed damper.
So chain looks good. The oil slinger looks like it was bent before installing. Because it was only marked and imprinted with the chain on one side , that side was up against the chain.. other side had clearance. Took it off ,very bent. Lesson for me was don,t always think a leaking oil pan is always a bad thing. If not for the leak I wouldn't have removed the o/p. Never would have spotted it. Thanks. Al
So chain looks good. The oil slinger looks like it was bent before installing. Because it was only marked and imprinted with the chain on one side , that side was up against the chain.. other side had clearance. Took it off ,very bent. Lesson for me was don,t always think a leaking oil pan is always a bad thing. If not for the leak I wouldn't have removed the o/p. Never would have spotted it. Thanks. Al
10-11-2014, 04:40 PM
#12
Mopar Lover
Here you go Al... This is what it looks like... 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/in...?topic=72220.0
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/in...?topic=72220.0
10-13-2014, 05:31 AM
#14
Also is the damper supposed to tightened Down flush with the end of crank? Or just down where it is seated against the o/s. & cog. Al
Last edited by Skynyrd; 10-13-2014 at 05:33 AM.
10-13-2014, 07:21 AM
#15
Mopar Lover
No...You don't have to have the slinger in that case.....
Dampner / crankshaft depth depends on how short the snout is on the dampner.... As long as it is seated, I'm guessing you should be good to go. But the crank should not hang out past the dampner!!
Dampner / crankshaft depth depends on how short the snout is on the dampner.... As long as it is seated, I'm guessing you should be good to go. But the crank should not hang out past the dampner!!
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10-13-2014, 09:56 AM
#16
The snout is about 3/4 inches beyond the back of the fluidamper . But the crank may sit back in the damper a little ? With damper fully seated.
With o/p off I will be able to look behind it to check that it's seated. I am back and forth on the slinger.
You say for our application I can do without it?
Al
With o/p off I will be able to look behind it to check that it's seated. I am back and forth on the slinger.
You say for our application I can do without it?
Al
10-14-2014, 05:50 AM
#19
Mopar Lover
Good Racing here.... This is at Famoso raceway this weekend....
http://www.famosoraceway.com/califor...d-reunion.html
http://www.famosoraceway.com/califor...d-reunion.html
10-15-2014, 05:47 PM
#20
I have a Big Daddy autographed t shirt. My dad had. Would like to let him sign it again.Maybe some day. About to get back to the bottom , have new milodon tray & pan also new super duper rear seal retainer going to leave off side seals and shoot it full of aluminum silicone.
Hope this works. Al
10-16-2014, 05:05 PM
#22
Yes , but upside down I don,t know. When I forced the silicone in I put a small washer on the tube cut it off even. That helped.
Put all I could in & it started coming out the sides like where you describe with bolts about 15 lbs torque.
I had to force it all in. It must have filled the sides all the way up I'm thinking because of it coming out the sides torqued that much.. It's about impossible to see the top & it's clear at that. I may try and get a little more on the sides. before button up. , Al
Put all I could in & it started coming out the sides like where you describe with bolts about 15 lbs torque.
I had to force it all in. It must have filled the sides all the way up I'm thinking because of it coming out the sides torqued that much.. It's about impossible to see the top & it's clear at that. I may try and get a little more on the sides. before button up. , Al
Last edited by Skynyrd; 10-16-2014 at 05:10 PM.
10-16-2014, 06:21 PM
#24
Mopar Lover
Sounds like you got it handled..... No I'm Sitting out CHHR @ Bakersfield Famoso... I will watch it on Bangshift.... I dont normally work on Fridays, but this week is "Smog" the fleet Friday and Saturday... We are trying to smog most of our fleet in the next 2 days... So I'll be sitting out on the racing side. But trust me when I say, (I have been to plenty of them)..No lack of Racing here in SO-CAL, Or Crusing, HotRodding, car showing,.. It just dosent stop around here...
10-17-2014, 11:16 AM
#27
Well I guess the smog deal is something we don't have. Not yet.
Finished up the Duster this morning. Will fire up this evening and check. If everything checks out maybe gey to go Saturday. Just for the day. Al
Finished up the Duster this morning. Will fire up this evening and check. If everything checks out maybe gey to go Saturday. Just for the day. Al
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