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thedusterridesagain 04-15-2009 07:11 PM

duster engine swap.......
 
ok guys dont banish me but i have a 2002 z28 with ls1. and a 74 duster. thinkin on guttin the camaro and putting it into the duster. good power great mileage and easily modded plus the 4 speed overdrive auto.any one have any threads or any where i can look on the details. help will be appreciated. thanks.

johnthegoalie 04-15-2009 08:23 PM

thats like dating a pre-op drag queen... in other words nooooo, unless you like crying while balled up in the fetal position...

Crazy4Carz.Com 04-16-2009 05:12 AM

Sell the Z and use the funds to buy Mopar parts for the Duster. You will otherwise spend tons of time and money only to have something with little to no value when you are done.

Red Devil 04-16-2009 09:05 AM

C4C is right, those kind of things are cool and unique but they are expensive, time consuming, and worthless. My buddy and I tried to do the opposite, put a duster drivetrain in a 94 chevy s10, totally stupid and pointless and we had to give up. We got lucky and were able to sell most of the mopar stuff and the truck ended up getting a 350 in it. Unless you are sure you can make it work and you are totally devoted and have the $$, I would say don't bother.

72RDRNR 04-16-2009 01:16 PM

its your ride do what you want. but why not sell/trade camaro for wrecked charger/300/magnum/truk etc...with hemi? then you get modern driveline with power and mpg's

chlngr1970 04-16-2009 07:34 PM

What is wrong with the Z that you are going to strip it? Crossing manufactures like that usually only works on REALLY old cars. I'm inclined to go with Crazy on this one. Sell the Z and get a good running 360.

j

67 GTX 04-17-2009 07:21 AM

i like 72RDRNR idea.
plus, i've heard of people doing that so their is no doubt that it can be done

72RDRNR 04-17-2009 09:38 AM

there was just an article in car craft about swaping modern motors into old muscle car. covered the big three...

chlngr1970 04-17-2009 07:17 PM

Over at FABO, there are a couple threads about that very subject. One is a 72 Dart that has a transplanted 5.7 Hemi from a truck, IIRC, and the guys newest adventure, a '68 Barracuda Fast Back with an SRT 6.1. The guys craftsmanship is second to none, on top of building a fantastic ride.

j

craveman 04-17-2009 07:21 PM

i have a 89 firebird that would love that ls1 motor if i could afford it.

hypermite 04-17-2009 08:49 PM

Find yourself a 71-75 Datsun 240-280 Z,(NOT the ZX model) they are super light at around 2500 lbs,& still pretty cheap, especially with blown up motors! I've seen guys run low 12s & high 11s with basically stock LS series engines & still get great fuel economy. Keep the Duster ALL MOPAR! just my 2 cents.

Crazy4Carz.Com 04-18-2009 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by 72RDRNR (Post 17623)
its your ride do what you want. but why not sell/trade camaro for wrecked charger/300/magnum/truk etc...with hemi? then you get modern driveline with power and mpg's

LIKE THIS?

http://www.crazy4carz.com/gallery2/d...art+engine.jpg

I just finished this project. Late model Hemi in a '68 Dart.

http://www.crazy4carz.com/gallery2/d...enger+side.jpg

There is the entire build step by step on www.Crazy4Carz.Com

Go to Forums then Muscle cars then " not a muscle car yet..."

Good information, and I'll be happy to answer any questions you have, I encountered every problem and solved it.

thedusterridesagain 05-08-2009 11:45 AM

note taken guys.... ive already changed my mind im gonna keep the 340 till i can do a modern swap for either a srt8 motor or just a 5.7..... the camaro i decided to give to my nephew as a birthday present when hes 18....actually duster is in the shop getting some rust work done. i get it back today im stoooooooked!

Crazy4Carz.Com 05-08-2009 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by thedusterridesagain (Post 19042)
note taken guys.... ive already changed my mind im gonna keep the 340 till i can do a modern swap for either a srt8 motor or just a 5.7..... the camaro i decided to give to my nephew as a birthday present when hes 18....actually duster is in the shop getting some rust work done. i get it back today im stoooooooked!

Good call. If I can be any help when you do the swap let me know. Let's see some pic's after you get it back!

67 GTX 05-09-2009 02:11 PM

2x on pics

thedusterridesagain 05-13-2009 05:30 PM

oh it will be a while guys. this stuff cost money of which i do not have enough. divorce on a navy paycheck isnt cutting it. will definetly keep yall updated.

Joeychgo 03-12-2010 11:25 PM

:spam:

Originally Posted by chlngr1970 (Post 17728)
Over at FABO, there are a couple threads about that very subject. One is a 72 Dart that has a transplanted 5.7 Hemi from a truck, IIRC, and the guys newest adventure, a '68 Barracuda Fast Back with an SRT 6.1. The guys craftsmanship is second to none, on top of building a fantastic ride.

j

you mean this thread?

:spam:

Sangetsu 03-19-2010 01:50 AM


Originally Posted by thedusterridesagain (Post 19042)
note taken guys.... ive already changed my mind im gonna keep the 340 till i can do a modern swap for either a srt8 motor or just a 5.7..... the camaro i decided to give to my nephew as a birthday present when hes 18....actually duster is in the shop getting some rust work done. i get it back today im stoooooooked!

What exactly is wrong with your 340? It's a more modern design than the small block Chevy and Ford designs, and has the potential to make more than ample power. It may not be a sexy as the newer SRT engines and such, but it is reliable, easy to work on, and getting less-and-less common.

I remember the old car magazine tests in 1971 when they were testing the "new" 1971 Plymouth 340 'cuda. Box stock they were able to get a 14.09 1/4 mile time out of it, which was faster than the 383 or 440 'cudas. Only the 6 pack and Hemi were faster.

You could modify your 340 make more power than an SRT conversion for a fraction of the cost, and you wouldn't have to make any modifications the the electrical or fuel systems, or frame/drive-line.

67 GTX 03-19-2010 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Sangetsu (Post 40222)
I remember the old car magazine tests in 1971 when they were testing the "new" 1971 Plymouth 340 'cuda. Box stock they were able to get a 14.09 1/4 mile time out of it, which was faster than the 383 or 440 'cudas. Only the 6 pack and Hemi were faster.

383's yes
440's no
it all depends on the gearing

Sangetsu 03-20-2010 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by 67 GTX (Post 40251)
383's yes
440's no
it all depends on the gearing

3.55's in both. The 340 was a 4 speed, the 440 had an auto.

I've outrun 2 friends' Charger R/Ts at the track with my 340 'cuda (heavier cars, I know, but they didn't even come close). The only mods to the 'cuda were headers, careful tuning, and a 3.91 gear swap. I was even running the original Thermoquad in it. The Chargers had headers and intakes on them, but perhaps weren't as well tuned (or well driven ;) )

Anyway, the 340 is an excellent engine. It has a better rod ratio that the SBC and SBF engines, rocker arm shafts instead of the ball/stud (BS) rocker arm arrangement, double roller timing chain, windage tray, good heads (depending on the year), etc. Well set-up and tuned, it'll surprise you, my '73 'cuda ran in the mid 12's without much work or money invested.

Tex 10-15-2010 04:10 PM

I like your idea and actually I'm thinking about swapping a Chevy small block into my Gold Duster, however I would think the Vortec 5700 L31 would be a better candidate. Since it is basically shares the same block as all the older 350's; parts, universal motor mounts, and transmissions would be fairly cheap and extremely easy to come by.

blue 68 gts 10-16-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 56914)
I like your idea and actually I'm thinking about swapping a Chevy small block into my Gold Duster, however I would think the Vortec 5700 L31 would be a better candidate. Since it is basically shares the same block as all the older 350's; parts, universal motor mounts, and transmissions would be fairly cheap and extremely easy to come by.

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