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Newbie... Engine(s) Questions...
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So without writing a book, I've had a couple muscle cars over the years, but my favorite was a 1970 Dodge Dart Swinger I had in high school/college that I basically ruined. (Drove it year round in the north and rusted it out.)
Learned my lesson there. I've pined for one ever since. Have a house/garage now, much more versed in mechanical abilities, (still not much from that era however) and I would like to get back into it. So I'm looking for another swinger. I like the 70-72 best with the flat nose, just the aesthetics are better IMO. Currently trying to locate a project car with a good body/frame and would eventually like to put a larger small block in, like a 340 or 383. (Manual preferred, but I'll get there eventually.) Seems all I can find are slant 6 cars right now, which would not be the final product. I guess right now Ideally I'd like to build a 340 Swinger clone, but would like advice as far as what works and what doesn't. Would a 383 be a good choice as well? Seems there are more of them and they are certainly cheaper. Ideally not looking to sink a ton of money into this, however I do want to do it right, not looking for a car show champion as much as a nice weekend cruiser. I've pulled engines before, and I wrench a lot on newer stuff, (mostly my and my brothers' trucks/bikes) but never really done any swaps like this. I did find a rusty 73 Dart Sport with a 340/4-speed that I could use as a donor car, (has posi, rally wheels, and disc brakes too) however the rust on the block has me worried. Appreciate the input fellas. (Avatar/Green one is the one I had in high school.) (Gold/Brown one is a 70 Swinger and potential runner) (Motor is the 340/4-speed in the rusted 73) |
Personally I would look for a rust free example, have it shipped to you.. The extra cost would be offset by not having to do a lot of rust repair. V8 or 6. The 6 requires more work but, Put a late model 360 in. Maybe even an overdrive. You are right that car shown would be good for a parts car
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I have to agree with the no rust , very expensive to repair correctly!cash
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Originally Posted by TVLynn
(Post 137889)
Personally I would look for a rust free example, have it shipped to you.. The extra cost would be offset by not having to do a lot of rust repair. V8 or 6. The 6 requires more work but, Put a late model 360 in. Maybe even an overdrive. You are right that car shown would be good for a parts car
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360 would be more available and cheap.. I would buy that car FOR parts only if it is cheap like $500 or less..
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There is a benefit to building a15 year old 360 aposed to a 45 year old 340 , the 340 is going to have more history so it's going to cost more to rebuild. But the trend nowadays is stroker kits and aftermarket aluminum heads for small blocks over 400" and 500 hp, something you didn't have back in high school.:)
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Originally Posted by Iowan
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There is a benefit to building a15 year old 360 aposed to a 45 year old 340 , the 340 is going to have more history so it's going to cost more to rebuild. But the trend nowadays is stroker kits and aftermarket aluminum heads for small blocks over 400" and 500 hp, something you didn't have back in high school.:)
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Build what makes you happy.....
But Me myself... I'm in with the 360 unit... Just my 2 cents... http://www.allsmileys.com/files/smil...bbies/5356.gif |
Those tin 340 4 BARREL air cleaner appliques look great on a 500 hp stroker. Just saying some guys do it so I've been told.:)
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If you use a 73 or 4 , 360 block you can use a standard 340 piston for a 374 I think, cubes rule, rpm drool!:)
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Well....I just did something stupid.
Found a '70 RB 440 with a rebuilt/fresh 6-Pack. |
Stupid?
Good for you , 440 is my swap I say GO FOR IT!!! I have always made my own mounts but shoemaker makes a kit , motor mounts to K frame and headers. A body 440 6 pack I hope it came with carbs, COOL 😎! Let us know how it goes:) |
Or did I miss something again?
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Originally Posted by Iowan
(Post 137937)
Or did I miss something again?
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I like 440's... :)
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Originally Posted by RacerHog
(Post 138092)
I like 440's... :)
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Originally Posted by Iowan
(Post 138101)
The only mopar cast iron I own.:)
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Originally Posted by RacerHog
(Post 138104)
Do you know what to do with them????? :yikes:
Until they hold the front tires in the AIR! |
Originally Posted by Iowan
(Post 138113)
Hold down the garage floor.:)
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Did you get the edit ,Bob?
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Bob just asking, do you have any thing that makes big power or are you all talk?
Because I have about 1200 hp of mopar in my garage ready to install, what do you have? Been working hard to get back to the track and it will happen, but then there's life and it gets in the way. Give me crap all day, I'm guy who will tune your car when mine is running like crap with a smile on my face because I want to help you out, help the sport. I learned from the best and I'm willing to pass it forward, I get frustrated with those who don't know the basis automotive skills before modifying for performance. Iowan |
Now back to the thead, pull it apart and see what you have. For the cost of a gasket set you will know!:)
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Originally Posted by Iowan
(Post 138138)
Now back to the thead, pull it apart and see what you have. For the cost of a gasket set you will know!:)
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Originally Posted by ToMang07
(Post 138139)
I'm debating how far I want to tear it down. (New rings, bushings, etc) Once I get it on the stand I'll probably throw some oil in it and check compression. Then start teardown. Supposedly it only has 90k on it. She turns smooth.
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1970 according to the stamp. Been out of a car for 4-5 years.
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Originally Posted by Iowan
(Post 138137)
Bob just asking, do you have any thing that makes big power or are you all talk?
Because I have about 1200 hp of mopar in my garage ready to install, what do you have? Been working hard to get back to the track and it will happen, but then there's life and it gets in the way. Give me crap all day, I'm guy who will tune your car when mine is running like crap with a smile on my face because I want to help you out, help the sport. I learned from the best and I'm willing to pass it forward, I get frustrated with those who don't know the basis automotive skills before modifying for performance. Iowan All sold 10 Years back....:) |
Originally Posted by RacerHog
(Post 138145)
All sold 10 Years back....:)
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Originally Posted by ToMang07
(Post 138143)
1970 according to the stamp. Been out of a car for 4-5 years.
Iowan... Lets move this other stuff over to the good morning Tread... Just so we dont screw up ToMag07's Thread... :) |
If you pull it apart you will know what pistons it has in it, then you can have an idea of the compression ratio and ciylinder condetion, heads and a look at the bearings.:)
All for the price of a gasket set, cheap.:) If the parts are good you gut put it back together, no harm no fowel.cashnot |
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