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crmzendrgone Dec 5, 2011 12:36 PM

My 1977 Chrysler Cordoba 400 CI Stroker build thread.
 
So I have decided to start building my stroker. the first step was to pull the old worn out engine. Done, check. now years later I am doing it. I got the engine back on the stand today to clean it up check it over and then we'll send it out to the machine shop.

http://i40.tinypic.com/fz7x2c.jpg

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Sorry for the large images.

crmzendrgone Dec 5, 2011 12:37 PM

Please excuse the cluttered shop.

bremereric Dec 5, 2011 01:24 PM

If your using one of the image storage sites such as photobucket they do offer you a option to resize them. Usually 840X640 is a good size to post. I tore my spare 440 apart yesterday and the pictures from my phone were so crappy I didn't post them. Don't forget to remove your fuel pump push rod. I would also remove all freeze plugs, oil gallery plugs and the two drain plugs on the side of the block. That makes sure that everything gets cleaned and all new plugs are installed.

crmzendrgone Dec 5, 2011 04:28 PM

Do you mean this part here?

http://i39.tinypic.com/o0s42c.jpg

bremereric Dec 5, 2011 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by crmzendrgone (Post 78566)
Do you mean this part here?

http://i39.tinypic.com/o0s42c.jpg

Yep and I see you got your pictures under control. Your two drain plugs are on each side of the block kinda in the middle. You have
one oil gallery plug in the front by above and to the left of the cam bearing. A couple of oil gallery plugs in the back and one on top in the back by the oil sending unit. Knock your freeze plugs out with a punch close to one edge and try to flip the top or bottom out towards you. Pull them out with pliers. I found out the more you do the more your machine shop likes it.

TVLynn Dec 5, 2011 08:12 PM

Hay that's clean, you can see the floor. Make a note of where all of the plugs go. Don't trust the machine shop to replace them without checking to make sure ALL of them were replaced...

bremereric Dec 5, 2011 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by TVLynn (Post 78574)
Make a note of where all of the plugs go. Don't trust the machine shop to replace them without checking to make sure ALL of them were replaced...

Mine does and there are two oil gallery plugs in the front...two on the back and two up at the oil sender unit...one should be open from removing it.

scotts74birds Dec 7, 2011 06:09 PM

Guess I've been playing with V6's too long! Those cylinder bores look like they were made for coffee cans! Good luck on the build my friend!

crmzendrgone Dec 8, 2011 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by TVLynn (Post 78574)
Hay that's clean, you can see the floor. Make a note of where all of the plugs go. Don't trust the machine shop to replace them without checking to make sure ALL of them were replaced...

That's true. Good info will do.

Originally Posted by bremereric (Post 78576)
Mine does and there are two oil gallery plugs in the front...two on the back and two up at the oil sender unit...one should be open from removing it.

THanks

Originally Posted by scotts74birds (Post 78659)
Guess I've been playing with V6's too long! Those cylinder bores look like they were made for coffee cans! Good luck on the build my friend!

Thanks! coffee cans that is because this is what a real engine looks like, heehee.

Havent got a chance to play with it yet but will sometime this weekend hopefully. I'll take pictures as I go.

crmzendrgone Dec 9, 2011 12:11 PM

So everything that is circled in yellow I need to remove, correct?

http://i39.tinypic.com/90ppu0.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2ih54x5.jpg

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bremereric Dec 9, 2011 01:13 PM

Yep, they are all easy to remove. Use a punch and a hammer on the bottom edge of the freeze plugs. It will spin the top outside and you can pull it out with a pair of pliers. The front two are a little closer to the cylinder walls so go slow on them. Good pictures by the way. My machine shop loves when I do that because all they have to do is drive the cam bearings out and then it goes into the hot tank.

crmzendrgone Dec 9, 2011 02:50 PM

So the second to last image, the center plug is that a freeze plug or a plug for the cam?

scotts74birds Dec 9, 2011 08:20 PM

FYI, there has been some talk about cam bores shifting, or being tight on Mopar BB's. I dont know if this is for B-blocks, or RB-blocks. Just something to ask your machinist to be sure. They recommend a line-hone of the cam bore before new bushings are installed.

bremereric Dec 9, 2011 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by crmzendrgone (Post 78761)
So the second to last image, the center plug is that a freeze plug or a plug for the cam?

Plug for a the cam. I just think it is there so they can install cam bearings from both ends. All is does is seal up the end of the cam shaft.

crmzendrgone Dec 12, 2011 07:03 AM

So anyone have some ideas on what kind of cam I should put in the engine?

crmzendrgone Dec 12, 2011 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by scotts74birds (Post 78777)
FYI, there has been some talk about cam bores shifting, or being tight on Mopar BB's. I dont know if this is for B-blocks, or RB-blocks. Just something to ask your machinist to be sure. They recommend a line-hone of the cam bore before new bushings are installed.

Good info, I will be sure to ask about that when I get to the machine shop.


Originally Posted by bremereric (Post 78782)
Plug for a the cam. I just think it is there so they can install cam bearings from both ends. All is does is seal up the end of the cam shaft.

That is what I was thinking.

crmzendrgone Dec 12, 2011 07:22 AM

http://i39.tinypic.com/1z4xw1d.jpg
Not sure if the picture shows it but there is a bit of a jagged edge there. An old timer, drag racer, engine builder told me that it is a good idea that way oil can get back down to the bottom quicker. Also he mentioned to drill little holes in the curved parts by the lifter holes to allow oil to drain from that spot.

Any thoughts?

bremereric Dec 12, 2011 08:02 AM

Grind away the extra casting on the holes is fine. I have never seen anyone drill any holes where you mentioned. But I don't race either.

crmzendrgone Dec 12, 2011 01:50 PM

So I went to the machine shop I am going to be using and they have a very good shop and they thrive on quality. they even have the option to assemble the engine. I may have them do that, up in the air I mean I have the tools but not so much the time. No sure may just do it myself get that self gradification that way. They also can order the cam and pistons that I will need. YAH!

crmzendrgone Dec 14, 2011 07:13 AM

So what is an A-type engine as described in these headers the first one on the page:

http://www.autopartsauthority.com/pa...versal:1%29%29

bremereric Dec 14, 2011 09:59 AM

Those headers are for a small block. 5.9 liter is a 360.

scotts74birds Dec 14, 2011 07:22 PM

I would grind down anything that acts a a "shelf". Oil will drip better off a sharp edge than a rounded one. Dont forget the the ole' skool trick of painting the lifter galley with "glyptal". I don't know about drilling holes.

crmzendrgone Dec 15, 2011 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by bremereric (Post 78972)
Those headers are for a small block. 5.9 liter is a 360.

Just off the top of anyones head, do you know where I can find headers for big blocks?

crmzendrgone Dec 15, 2011 10:08 AM

HEADERS
 
can I trust that these will fit?

http://www.holley.com/5115HKR.asp

crmzendrgone Dec 15, 2011 10:10 AM

REALLY?
 

Originally Posted by scotts74birds (Post 79023)
I would grind down anything that acts a a "shelf". Oil will drip better off a sharp edge than a rounded one. Dont forget the the ole' skool trick of painting the lifter galley with "glyptal". I don't know about drilling holes.


Definition for glyptal:

Web definitions:An adhesive and a sealing agent used widely in paleontology. Is acclaimed for its strong yet fully removable qualities as a glue. Used...www.duke.edu/~mtb3/castingmanual/appendix_a.html

So what does this do to help?

bremereric Dec 15, 2011 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by crmzendrgone (Post 79078)
Just off the top of anyones head, do you know where I can find headers for big blocks?

TTi

Tube Technology Inc.

http://www.ttiexhaust.com/index.htm

crmzendrgone Dec 15, 2011 01:49 PM

Confused
 

Originally Posted by bremereric (Post 79092)
TTi

Tube Technology Inc.

http://www.ttiexhaust.com/index.htm


so that I am not confused I thought the cordoba is a B body and the only date on that site that fits my year is an M body???

crmzendrgone Dec 15, 2011 02:16 PM

I haven't read through all this article but is what it is saying about using studs for the head bolts is better that a bolt seem like a good idea to everyone?

http://www.dragzine.com/tech-stories...nd-valve-lash/

bremereric Dec 15, 2011 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by crmzendrgone (Post 79093)
so that I am not confused I thought the cordoba is a B body and the only date on that site that fits my year is an M body???

Call Mike Shumacher.

bremereric Dec 15, 2011 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by crmzendrgone (Post 79094)
I haven't read through all this article but is what it is saying about using studs for the head bolts is better that a bolt seem like a good idea to everyone?

http://www.dragzine.com/tech-stories...nd-valve-lash/

Studs are easier to torque equally than bolts. I have used them before with good results. They are overkill for a street motor.


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