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64fury 07-08-2009 06:53 AM

HELP! Can't remove wheel!
 
Hi Guys!

Do I feel dumb about posting this one!

Need to take the front wheels of my 64' Plymouth to go get them balanced (high speed vibration) I can get the passenger side off with no problem, but the drivers side is a different story!

Non of the 5 lugs will budge, Impact wrench won't move them, Breaker bar with a 3' snipe won't move them. Torque wrench has them at 280+ lbs/ft I can see one being stubborn but all five?

Now are the wheel studs on the drivers side right or left hand treads? I know all modern cars are right hand tread, but i had an old Triumph which had left had threaded studs on one side and right on the other! Could this be the case with my Fury?

Don't want to try and muscle them off for fear or breaking a stud off!

78D200 07-08-2009 07:01 AM

I ran into the same problem with my 68 Valaint. Thr right front and left rear will be one way and the left front and right rear will be the other way. There should be a letter on the end of the stud. Either a "R" or a "L" indication the thread. I'd assume that you have left hand threaded studs on the left front side there.


I changed all of the studs on my Valaint to be right hand thread to prevent something like this happening to me again.

64fury 07-08-2009 07:04 AM

Thanks for the quick reply!

There are no L or R markings on the nuts but there is a notch on the sides, right now I'll assume that notch indicates L/H treading, going to go try to remove them as they were L/H threads and see what happens!

78D200 07-08-2009 07:10 AM

I don't know what or why a company would do that with the studs, but I have seen crazier things. Hopefully it works out for ya.

64fury 07-08-2009 07:38 AM

Yep Left side of the car were Left Hand threads, Right side were Right Hand threads!

Now with that problem solved I'm off to the wheel shop to get them balanced. But I did find another mystery once they were off, but that will be another thread!

Thanks guys!

Morrigan_Aria 07-08-2009 08:37 AM

Had to teach my son to bust the lugs all by hand because both mine have the left handed lugs still installed. The tire shops hate me; one place broke a lefty one by using the impact and I refused to allow a RH to be installed. It was a very long day for them indeed.

richinny 07-08-2009 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by 78D200 (Post 23970)
I don't know what or why a company would do that with the studs, but I have seen crazier things. Hopefully it works out for ya.


i was once told it was believed that a loose left hand threaded nut would not back off as much while rotating on the left side. send this one to myth busters.

Morrigan_Aria 07-08-2009 08:49 AM

I've heard that too. I must admit, I've never encountered a loose LH lug though.

Do it! Send it to mythbusters.

78D200 07-08-2009 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by richinny (Post 23981)
i was once told it was believed that a loose left hand threaded nut would not back off as much while rotating on the left side. send this one to myth busters.


Well my right front and left rear were left hand thread and the left front and right rear were right hand thread. I don't know....... I just don't know.

Morrigan_Aria 07-08-2009 09:20 AM

WHAT?! Um...that's just wrong.

78D200 07-08-2009 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Morrigan_Aria (Post 23988)
WHAT?! Um...that's just wrong.

That would be my vehicle........ :rolleyes:

richinny 07-08-2009 02:37 PM

tim, turn the car around, it'll work out fine ;-) it looks like somebody rotated the front drums. just be glad it's not too easy to swap the axles. LOL

carlosg7915 07-08-2009 02:41 PM

did u try the other way?

theomahamoparguy 07-08-2009 05:13 PM

sounds like someone swaped the drum/hubs around, fact. screwup?

Hey, one of the Mopar "rights of initiation" is dealing with the left hand lugs. I know I did. I had a 66 charger, a breaker bar and a 3/4 deepwell. Wanted to mount a set of cragar wheels. The cursing and busted knuckles ensued. Finally I gave up, my bud came over and we left. {he was just as dumbfounded}. Stopped at a friends shop that we had just met and was informed about the left hand threads, the guy was LOL the whole time we were explaining the problem. Like I said, it's just part of the initiation process. You curse and everyone else laughs!!

Morrigan_Aria 07-08-2009 05:23 PM

Kind of reminds me of sending the new guy out to get spots for the spot welder, or a box of grid squares.

theomahamoparguy 07-08-2009 05:30 PM

...left handed wrench and blinker fluid..... had others. cant remember em

scotts74birds 07-08-2009 05:41 PM

100ft of flight line and a bucket of rotor wash. Cable stretcher, muffler bearing, piston return spring, spotted paint, an aluminum magnet,etc.

theomahamoparguy 07-08-2009 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by scotts74birds (Post 24033)
100ft of flight line and a bucket of rotor wash. Cable stretcher, muffler bearing, piston return spring, spotted paint, an aluminum magnet,etc.

Holy crap those are hilarious!! [LMAO] brings back memories...

HemiSilva 07-08-2009 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Morrigan_Aria (Post 23980)
Had to teach my son to bust the lugs all by hand because both mine have the left handed lugs still installed. The tire shops hate me; one place broke a lefty one by using the impact and I refused to allow a RH to be installed. It was a very long day for them indeed.

I agree, I have to replace some studs on my left side, they will be replaced with LH studs, that's the way Maw Mopar sent them out of the factory and that's the way they stay ;) :D

67 GTX 07-09-2009 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by HemiSilva (Post 24040)
I agree, I have to replace some studs on my left side, they will be replaced with LH studs, that's the way Maw Mopar sent them out of the factory and that's the way they stay ;) :D

but they are very annoying though

67 GTX 07-09-2009 04:56 PM

when i got my car, some of the studs were replaced, and some werent
boy, that was confusing

67 GTX 07-09-2009 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by 64fury (Post 23969)
Thanks for the quick reply!

There are no L or R markings on the nuts but there is a notch on the sides, right now I'll assume that notch indicates L/H treading, going to go try to remove them as they were L/H threads and see what happens!


the markings L or R are on the stud

richinny 07-09-2009 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by 67 GTX (Post 24107)
when i got my car, some of the studs were replaced, and some werent
boy, that was confusing

anti-theft device.

Morrigan_Aria 07-10-2009 07:32 AM

Kind of like my shaved '53 with the three on the tree.

If you can get in it, and figure out how to shift it...lol

67 GTX 07-12-2009 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by richinny (Post 24143)
anti-theft device.

haha


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