UNDER HOOD HEAT
Other than header wrap and a hood scoop, are there any more tricks that you guys use to reduce the temperature under the hood ? ----- I realize the proper radiator, coolant, thermostat, fan(s), shroud, water pump, pulleys, timing etc. is also a factor. ----- What about raising the rear of the hood by adjusting the bolts that hold the hood to the hinges ? It seems that this would let, at least, a little heat out.
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Originally Posted by Magoo
(Post 130730)
What about raising the rear of the hood by adjusting the bolts that hold the hood to the hinges ? It seems that this would let, at least, a little heat out.
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Magoo -
That's going to look pretty silly and the cowl induction thing is limited at best. What's the real problem? Archer |
Heat Under The Hood
Originally Posted by Archer
(Post 130737)
Magoo -
. What's the real problem? Archer |
Magoo -
First thing I'd do is get some numbers. An IR thermometer from Harbor Freight might cost you about $30 - 40. It's a neat tool. Get some readings on how hot things are under the hood. My headers are over 800 at the exhaust port, so things getting warm isn't odd. The "real question" I was referring to was what damage was it causing or what are you concerned about? However, you're initial thoughts were correct. If your engine isn't overheating (not going over 200* for example in a worse case scenario), then a scoop and header wraps are your first lines of defense. Archer |
Run with hood off
Originally Posted by Iowan
(Post 130733)
Have at it , it works about 1/2 inch up, let some trapped air move.
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205 and beyond
Originally Posted by Archer
(Post 130743)
Magoo -
The "real question" I was referring to was what damage was it causing or what are you concerned about? Archer |
COLD WEATHER CAR
Originally Posted by Magoo
(Post 130744)
---- hood off. Now weather wise, here in the N.E. it's to late to test that, however next year when the weather heats up, I'll try that. - I believe that will be a good test to determine if engine compartment heat is my problem in stop & go traffic. --
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Magoo -
If it's going much beyond 205*, you don't have an under hood heat problem, you have an engine cooling problem. Basic stuff, does it get hotter when stuck in traffic and respond, even slightly to increasing rpm (air flow) or does it get hot regardless of speed (heat dissipation/radiator, or coolant flow/water pump/thermostat. I tried that with the wife too - didn't fly. Archer |
Cooling in traffic
Originally Posted by Archer
(Post 130749)
Magoo -
If it's going much beyond 205*, you don't have an under hood heat problem, you have an engine cooling problem. . Archer |
Magoo -
Then (assuming you have a decent radiator), you're just not getting enough air through it. While a GOOD set of electrical fans, set up as pullers is optimal, a BIG flex fan properly distanced inside the shroud can work. I'm using the latter with decent results, but will probably go electric sooner or later. Lastly, there are a number of "wet water" solutions on the market. I've used Purple Ice with decent, but not spectacular results. It couldn't hurt, and should help protect the cooling system is nothing else. Archer |
WATER WETTER
Lastly, there are a number of "wet water" solutions on the market. I've used Purple Ice with decent, but not spectacular results. It couldn't hurt, and should help protect the cooling system is nothing else.
Archer[/QUOTE] --- My best results was with tap water and a solution called No-Rosion, which is a water wetter type solution. -- That was actually livable. ---- Now I have 50 - 50 water and anti freeze. -- I'll go back to the water and some type of water wetter, in the spring. -- Soon off to Florida, for the winter & car will stay comfy, in the garage, in Pa. |
NEW INFO
Possibly a solution -- see my other post, under Pulley diameters.
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Magoo -
Not a bad solution, but maybe not a great one either. Under driving the fan pulley, makes the fan and water pump go faster (good for cooling). It also creates more parasitic drag, robbing HP, that may or may be a problem for you. Depending on the fan and pump and your driving/rpm habits you may also go beyond the safety limits of said fan and water pump at higher rpm. Again, not a terrible idea, but proceed with caution. Archer |
UNDER VS OVER
Originally Posted by Archer
(Post 130766)
Magoo -
Under driving the fan pulley, makes the fan and water pump go faster (good for cooling) Archer |
Dick -
Actually you're under driving it to make it go faster. Think over-drive as in a transmission. Kinda why I haven't gone to the electric fans yet either - but still thinking about it. Where I live, utilizing the extra HP (and is can be as much as 10 - 15) by going electric is a seldom to none proposition. Live to far from a track, and too many cops/traffic on the highways. You're welcome. :) Archer |
Under vs. Over
Originally Posted by Archer
(Post 130769)
Dick -
Actually you're under driving it to make it go faster. Think over-drive as in a transmission. :) Archer |
Dick -
You want to drive the water pump/fan slower??? Or am I misreading something? For increased cooling you'd want the use a smaller pulley on the water pump, to make it go faster than the crank. Archer |
SEE POST RE PULLEY DIAMETERS
Originally Posted by Magoo
(Post 130764)
Possibly a solution -- see my other post, under Pulley diameters.
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Just to clear matters up, "over driving a fan is when the driven pulley is reduced in size from original and the driving pulley remains the same or larger". This has nothing to do with transmission ratios. Overdrive in a transmission means that the 1:1 ratio of the final gear has been reduced to where the output is less than 1.
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Originally Posted by Rooty
(Post 130775)
Just to clear matters up, "over driving a fan is when the driven pulley is reduced in size from original and the driving pulley remains the same or larger". This has nothing to do with transmission ratios. Overdrive in a transmission means that the 1:1 ratio of the final gear has been reduced to where the output is less than 1.
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Magoo -
Look up under driving / over driving from a physical perspective. Sorry, the Physics don't change based on the machinery. But you have the idea anyway. Archer |
Under driving vs. Over driving a car fan
[QUOTE=Archer;130766]Magoo -
Under driving the fan pulley, makes the fan and water pump go faster (good for cooling) Archer[/QUOTE] -- Nope ! -- In The Automotive World, here's how it works. -- See attached. -- Thanks for all of the exchanges, now let's put it to bed. -- Dick |
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