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Rocker arm shaft bolts???
Hey there, new to mopar forums and hoping that someone will be able to help me out. I have a 70 Dodge Dart Swinger with a stock 318 in it, 67000 original miles. I recently took the heads off to have a valve job done in order to have hardened seats installed. I didn't replace the lifters, rods, or rockers cause they are still all in good shape (or so I thought). When I got the heads back I reinstalled everything as it once was (have photos to verify). Now I got a loud chattering sound coming from both heads. This sound intensifies as the engine is under load, and is noticeable during idle.
Could this be a stuck lifter or are the rocker arm shafts too tight or not tight enough. My service manual states that rocker arm shafts should be tightened to 15 ft/lbs, but after looking online to verify this I have noticed a couple of different torque specs ranging from 15-30 ft/lbs. I have checked for an exhaust leak and there is none. I hope someone could shed some light on this problem for me. This chattering makes the car sound like I got a diesel engine under the hood. Thanks. |
sounds like a lifter problem to me, hard to tell not hearing it, if the bolts are down tight atleast 20 lbs the should be fine,
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Thanks for getting back to me. The lifters looked cool to me but maybe I missed something. I think I'll just pick up a new set to make sure. I did take it out for a drive yesterday, and noticed that the chattering sound gets louder as the revs increase. Could I have missed an exhaust leak somewhere. The sound is present during idle, but gets really loud during acceleration. There is a sweet spot that I noticed the chattering disappear, the sound stops at around 1500-2000 rpm just coasting.
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This may be a "reach", but if he put in new valve seats, and didnt measure properly, the "installed" height of the valves would have been changed. That WOULD throw-off things in a shaft mount set up. I dont know what the proper installed-height is. I think its 1.650". I've also seen a spec of 1-5/8 to 1-11/16". A longer measurement would possibly cause binding in the valve train, a shorter one might cause excessive play. Since that is the only thing that changed, I'd start there. Unless you also used some funky, thick as hell head gasket!
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Originally Posted by scotts74birds
(Post 51939)
This may be a "reach", but if he put in new valve seats, and didnt measure properly, the "installed" height of the valves would have been changed. !
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Originally Posted by DartSwinger
(Post 51922)
Thanks for getting back to me. The lifters looked cool to me but maybe I missed something. I think I'll just pick up a new set to make sure. I did take it out for a drive yesterday, and noticed that the chattering sound gets louder as the revs increase. Could I have missed an exhaust leak somewhere. The sound is present during idle, but gets really loud during acceleration. There is a sweet spot that I noticed the chattering disappear, the sound stops at around 1500-2000 rpm just coasting.
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Thanks guys this thing is driving me nuts. I did notice today before I went to work that I installed the exhaust manifold gaskets upside down (kinda dumb) . So that's what I'm going to correct first. I'll check the valve heights too. I just installed standard felpro head gaskets, nothing special. Someone also told me that the valves could have been installed unevenly which would cause a tapping. I checked it out yesterday with a straight edge and feeler gauge, and some of them were sitting a little lower than others (like about .008-.010). I called the machine shop and the guy said that there will be slight differences. Is this correct, should some be lower that others?
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Could you have put the rocker shafts on upside down? im not sure if that would make your loud tapping noise but maybe
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