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rcknrolfender79 Oct 23, 2012 11:41 PM

Need Help with Pistol Grip shifter! A833!
 
Hey guys, if you read my other thread the reverse rod on my shifter broke. Well I took it out welded the rod back together and put it back together. When I took the shifter apart I was very careful to take each shim and rod or linkage plate whatever you want to call it off and laid them on the table to where I would know exactly how they came apart. Well I guess as I had my hood down welding my little brother was curious about the parts of the shifter and decided to pick a couple or all (I dont know) of them up and look at them therefore ruining my "perfect order" lol. After trying to guess how it went back together and getting it back in the car I have found all gears work great 1 through 4. But its as if there is not notch in the shifter for it to go up and over into reverse! lol. So I am really needing a schematic or something showing exactly how the shims and plates go together. I would REALLY REALLY appreciate some help here guys other wise I'm gonna have to find someone that knows how it goes together which i'm sure wont be an easy task if not impossible in my area. Or just buy a new shifter which I really dont want to do after seeing the prices on a pistol grip set up! Plz help. Thank you. I have searched google images for a schematic with no luck. Maybe one of you have gotten a part for a pistol grip with directions showing how it goes together?

PK1 Oct 24, 2012 03:34 AM

http://repairguide.autozone.com/znet...528007ff3b.jpg


To mock up a linkage ( especially on a swap or custom application ) the easiest way I do it is to remove the offending rod and measure the placement of the shifter and arm when the arms are in the appropriate sequence for the gear desired without the rod in place. You have to measure on all three axis as it a 1-2mm can keep the action from operating. When you reinstall the rod then make sure the arm and shifter are in that pre determined place.

If you welded and removed / added metal or changed the angle than you need to redo the OE setting. If you are just counting threads it wont work. So start from scratch on the mock up and don't use your original data to re install the rod.

MrOldart2U Oct 24, 2012 08:57 AM

If I remember right, the shifters are Hurst shifters, Competition Plus maybe? Maybe a Comp Plus without the stops etc... Hurst offers a rebuild service for OEM shifters...

rcknrolfender79 Oct 24, 2012 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by PK1 (Post 93199)
http://repairguide.autozone.com/znet...528007ff3b.jpg


To mock up a linkage ( especially on a swap or custom application ) the easiest way I do it is to remove the offending rod and measure the placement of the shifter and arm when the arms are in the appropriate sequence for the gear desired without the rod in place. You have to measure on all three axis as it a 1-2mm can keep the action from operating. When you reinstall the rod then make sure the arm and shifter are in that pre determined place.

If you welded and removed / added metal or changed the angle than you need to redo the OE setting. If you are just counting threads it wont work. So start from scratch on the mock up and don't use your original data to re install the rod.

I'm not sure if we are on the same page. The shifter is what was in the car when I bought it. Worked great. I went to put it in reverse before heading to work and the reverse arm on the shifter completely broke. So I took the shifter out of the car. And completely disassembled the shifter mechanism itself. It was the only way I could get to the reverse arm to weld it where it broke. The way it broke i was able to put the two pieces of the arm together they matched perfectly(keeping the same angle it originally held). I was very careful when tacking it in place to make sure it kept its original angle. After getting the two pieces tacked together I took a grinder and gouged out the seam to where I could thoroughly weld it all the way through. The arm should be near perfect. At most it could be 1 maybe 2mm out as far as the angle of it and I highly doubt that. Because I was extremely careful in making sure it went back together exactly right. When I was taking the shifter apart I was very careful laying the shims and shifter arms on top of each other so I would know exactly how it goes back together. As I had my hood down welding my little brother was curious about the parts inside of the shifter and decided to come look at them and accidentally getting the pieces mixed up. I tried to put the shifter back together the way I thought it came apart. But once getting it back into the car. I found that all gears 1 through 4 work great. But its as if the shifter doesnt have reverse now. If you try to put the shifter into the reverse position (left and up all the way). It will not go left enough. You will only get it into first gear. It wont even go over to the left far enough to where it WILL NOT hit 1. Like I said its as if the shifter was built without a reverse position now. But I know thats not the case. I just put one of those shims in the wrong way. And it wont let me go over to catch reverse. So what i'm needing is a schematic showing how the shifter mechanism itself is assembled. Not something showing how it mounts to the transmission and where the linkage rods go.

rcknrolfender79 Oct 24, 2012 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by MrOldart2U (Post 93209)
If I remember right, the shifters are Hurst shifters, Competition Plus maybe? Maybe a Comp Plus without the stops etc... Hurst offers a rebuild service for OEM shifters...

Yes it is a hurst shifter. And I looked at their website as well. But its 250 bucks for them to rebuild an OEM shifter. And I really dont want to do that because this shifter is fine it just needs to be reassembled correctly. Thanks though

MrOldart2U Oct 25, 2012 07:37 PM

i did do some hunting around for any kind of diagram but i too came up empty....

TVLynn Oct 26, 2012 07:42 AM

There were some shifter rebuild articles in the Mopar Action Magazine Aug 95 and 97 ? If you can find a copy

Coronet 500 Oct 26, 2012 02:09 PM

Maybe these?



rcknrolfender79 Oct 27, 2012 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Coronet 500 (Post 93289)

Thank you so much! This is exactly what I was needing. I havent had a chance to get it out and reassemble it yet. I just now got on here to check the forums. Been a busy last couple of days for me. But again thank you so much! I will keep you guys posted on how it turns out! But just to let you guys know a bit of what I have gone through tryin to find help on this. I spent all of this last wednesday callin shops all over tulsa... same response from all of them. "Sorry we dont have anything to help you there. Just buy a new shifter." And they all got the same response from me lol "This shifter is fine I'm not buying a new one! Have a good day!" lol

MrOldart2U Nov 7, 2012 08:17 PM

Have ran across a thread on a different make forum that shows the rebuild process also, If needed I'll post the link....

Gorts 5th Nov 7, 2012 08:36 PM

i thought i saw one for sale here on the forum

roshanill Dec 3, 2012 02:38 AM

Hi, I need the driver's and passenger's side rear window crank handles. The rears are a bit shorter than the fronts to clear the inner quarter panels.

moparmusclecars@yahoo.com Dec 4, 2012 05:15 PM

Hmm, I thought this post was dealing with a pistol grip shifter?


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