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a.johansson84 Aug 5, 2014 12:29 PM

Dodge Kingsway 1953????
 
Hey. I want to buy a new car tomorrow. A Dodge Kingsway 1953 and was wondering if anyone knows if it is 6 volt or 12 volt systems in the cars?
I forgot to ask the current owner, and can not expect to call and ask now :)

It's a 6 with 3 speed transmission in it.


Grateful for all the answers I get

440roadrunner Aug 5, 2014 05:27 PM

I don't know why you can not "call and ask" it could have been converted. Chrysler products were 6V through 55 went 12 in 56 so far as I know

a.johansson84 Aug 6, 2014 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by 440roadrunner (Post 122026)
I don't know why you can not "call and ask" it could have been converted. Chrysler products were 6V through 55 went 12 in 56 so far as I know




It felt embarrassing to call and ask when we had just been talking already.

I hope it is for the 12v is a little easier with the stereo, otherwise I probably see if there are 6 to 12 converter for just the stereo, or convert the car to 12v.

a.johansson84 Aug 6, 2014 01:05 PM

There was 6 volts. My question, is it hard to rebuild the car to 12 volts?
I thought of the positive cable is which new cars have the negative lead.

440roadrunner Aug 6, 2014 01:49 PM

There are a couple of ways to go. If you want the car to be "restore correct" I'd seriously consider leaving it 6V You can buy inverters from 6 to 12. You need to do some research and determine which ground this would be. Some manufactures switched in "mid stream."

So far as 12V conversion, not that difficult in general. You MUST convert to NEG ground if you go 12V otherwise your efforts are a waste

For "correct" appearance you could use a 12V generator. Any 12V generator which you can physically mount up will work IF you get a regulator which correctly matches the generator. This is important. Generator regulators must NOT be rated for more amperage than the generator puts out, because the regulator also controls amperage to protect the generator.

The thing that determines ground polarity is twofold.......one, how the generator was polarized (sometimes called "flashing the field" or "flashing") and the contacts in the regulator. some OEM regulators were made only for one polarity. Many replacement, aftermarket regulators were built to handle either polarity to reduce stock

Obviously, you need all 12V lamps

The 6V starter is fine. If this uses a solenoid, that may or may not work as is

Wipers and heater motor need proper dropping resistors. These must be "figured" as to load IE amperage draw

The ammeter only needs to have the wires reversed if it reads the wrong direction, changing ground polarity

You'll need a proper 12V coil

Gauges.....There's a product called a "Runtz" which is an electronic regulator. You need one for each electrical gauge except the ammeter

And, of course, any other special optional equipment. Some high end cars had automatic headlamp dimmers and other toys. These you'd have to deal with on a come-as basis

a.johansson84 Aug 6, 2014 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by 440roadrunner (Post 122041)
There are a couple of ways to go. If you want the car to be "restore correct" I'd seriously consider leaving it 6V You can buy inverters from 6 to 12. You need to do some research and determine which ground this would be. Some manufactures switched in "mid stream."

So far as 12V conversion, not that difficult in general. You MUST convert to NEG ground if you go 12V otherwise your efforts are a waste

For "correct" appearance you could use a 12V generator. Any 12V generator which you can physically mount up will work IF you get a regulator which correctly matches the generator. This is important. Generator regulators must NOT be rated for more amperage than the generator puts out, because the regulator also controls amperage to protect the generator.

The thing that determines ground polarity is twofold.......one, how the generator was polarized (sometimes called "flashing the field" or "flashing") and the contacts in the regulator. some OEM regulators were made only for one polarity. Many replacement, aftermarket regulators were built to handle either polarity to reduce stock

Obviously, you need all 12V lamps

The 6V starter is fine. If this uses a solenoid, that may or may not work as is

Wipers and heater motor need proper dropping resistors. These must be "figured" as to load IE amperage draw

The ammeter only needs to have the wires reversed if it reads the wrong direction, changing ground polarity

You'll need a proper 12V coil

Gauges.....There's a product called a "Runtz" which is an electronic regulator. You need one for each electrical gauge except the ammeter

And, of course, any other special optional equipment. Some high end cars had automatic headlamp dimmers and other toys. These you'd have to deal with on a come-as basis




I found a converter for 6 to 12 volts.
It stood in the data: If you need a 12V car stereo in your motorcycle, you need a direct current.
Output current 10 A
Perhaps such could work in the car.

440roadrunner Aug 6, 2014 07:20 PM

Well there are lots of inverters. Check the ground polarity of the supply voltage. Check the amperage output and don't cut it too close. If you have a "Great Big" stereo you expect to operate, REMEMBER that you will be DOUBLING the amperage at the 6V level ADDING the conversion inefficiency of the inverter. In other words you will be upping the amperage to something like 230% of the 12V draw.

And don't cut that too close. Stereos are sometimes rated for average power / amperage. Inverters may or may not be rated "with the same thinking" that your stereo was. What I'm saying is THEY MIGHT BE LYING.


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