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chykov's76doba Apr 9, 2013 09:15 PM

fuel guage and tempurature guage not working
 
I thought I had a problem with my fuel tank, but now it appears that the fuel guage AND tempurature guage are both not working. Anyone have any thoughts on what might be the problem.

Oh yeah, this is a 76 cordoba

Thanks for any info

MAGNUM GT XS22L9R Apr 17, 2013 04:41 AM

Tach dash or non-tach dash?

jacilynn_s Apr 17, 2013 06:14 AM

check fuses.

440roadrunner Apr 17, 2013 06:17 AM

Depending on the car, could be a combination of problems, but the most likely is the instrument voltage limiter, on some earlier Rally dash cars, the limiter is built into the fuel gauge, but on most of 'em it's a separate plug-in module.

The originals were just like a signal blinker--they cycle on/off to reduce 12V to a puse equivalent of about 5V, that is, about a 50% duty cycle pulse.

Do yourself a favor and buy a solid state replacement RTE (Real Time Engineering) is one place

For some reason I cannot get their web page to display this morning

You can also Google around and find various projects on building one from a 5V voltage regulator

MAGNUM GT XS22L9R Apr 17, 2013 09:58 AM

I'm guessing yours is the non-tach dash due to having the fuel and temp gauges
together?! Here are both circuit boards, the voltage limiter is the same for both.
There are two on eBay right now, one used for $50.00 and another solid state for
$30.00. I have a complete non-rallye gauge set I'll let you have for $50 if you need it.
Comes with PC board w/Voltage limiter, Fuel, Water temp, Ammeter and Oil gauges.
Also gauge lens pod.


With out Tachometer:
http://moparfan.com/userimages/album...-_non-Tach.jpg

With Tachometer:
http://moparfan.com/userimages/album..._with-Tach.jpg

jacilynn_s Apr 17, 2013 12:23 PM

Guys there is multiple videos on the internet on how to solder in a 7805 voltage regulator. It's not hard at all.

chykov's76doba Apr 17, 2013 12:58 PM

Thanks for all of the input. I hope that one way or the other, I can get this fixed.

chykov's76doba May 7, 2013 12:24 PM

Just thinking this through, if I had a ground problem with the fuel sending unit, would that have an affect on the temperature gauge? Or another way to put it, if they both are not working it's either a bad gauge unit, the voltage regulator is bad or.....?

Any ideas are appreciated

chykov's76doba Jul 19, 2013 08:39 AM

UPDATE - I am halfway there! I replaced the temperature sending unit and my temp guage is working now, so it looks like I will be looking at the fuel sending unit (or possibly the float) to get the final part of the problem fixed.

Unless...anyone has any thoughts otherwise.

74Runneer Jul 19, 2013 09:47 AM

I have the same issue, my temp and fuel gauge don't work on my 74 non tach dash. I check my sending unit and that was good. I'm thinking its the voltage limiter or a grounding issue.

chykov's76doba Aug 12, 2013 09:11 AM

Finally, problem solved!

The float on my sending unit, had a pin hole in it and was full of fuel. I switched out the unit and the fuel gauge is working great now!

Thank you to all for your help and advise!:clap:

chykov's76doba Aug 12, 2013 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by 74Runneer (Post 105716)
I have the same issue, my temp and fuel gauge don't work on my 74 non tach dash. I check my sending unit and that was good. I'm thinking its the voltage limiter or a grounding issue.

Did you check the temp sending unit? Also the float on the fuel sending unit? Mine had a pin hole in it (almost invisible to the naked eye) and had filled with fuel. The sending unit functioned properly when I attached the meter to it, but the float was full and didn't work.

If those are not the problems, I have an extra fuel/temp gauge(nos) and voltage limiter if you are interested.

74Runneer Aug 13, 2013 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by chykov's76doba (Post 107211)
Did you check the temp sending unit? Also the float on the fuel sending unit? Mine had a pin hole in it (almost invisible to the naked eye) and had filled with fuel. The sending unit functioned properly when I attached the meter to it, but the float was full and didn't work.

If those are not the problems, I have an extra fuel/temp gauge(nos) and voltage limiter if you are interested.

Yeah I took my fuel sending unit out and I checked it for a voltage increase when the float went up and down (I forget the actual numbers but that was good). Then I looked at the float and that didn't have any fuel in it and appeared to be in good shape. I'm thinking it may be the voltage limiter because both temp and fuel gauge don't work. Actually the three smaller gauges on the right side of my cluster doesn't work.

So yeah I may be interested in your fuel/temp gauge and/or voltage limiter.

chykov's76doba Aug 14, 2013 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by 74Runneer (Post 107312)
Yeah I took my fuel sending unit out and I checked it for a voltage increase when the float went up and down (I forget the actual numbers but that was good). Then I looked at the float and that didn't have any fuel in it and appeared to be in good shape. I'm thinking it may be the voltage limiter because both temp and fuel gauge don't work. Actually the three smaller gauges on the right side of my cluster doesn't work.

So yeah I may be interested in your fuel/temp gauge and/or voltage limiter.

PM me if you want to do something.

MOPAR RON Aug 22, 2013 08:12 AM

i have a 70 fury 3 that the fuel gauge will only go up to about half a tank. i have tried replacing the sending unit and i have replaced the entire instrument cluster. any ideas?

dpw21562 Nov 27, 2020 10:10 PM

Could be the voltage limiter on the printed circuit board for the instruments

Ron Dunn Mar 31, 2021 12:07 PM

My temp and fuel either both work or neither works, I am assuming a grounding issue? This would rule out the voltage limiter,right? 1969 roadrunner


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