I have posted this on BBD and FABO..see my 440 Build
Check out these two threads I started on Big Block Dart and For A bodies Only...I have already posted them on these two site and they are very long threads....
http://www.bigblockdart.com/forum/sh...-68-Dodge-Dart http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/...ad.php?t=96239 |
Pretty cool build.
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nice build
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My Summit care package showed up today
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Some Eagle H beam 440 rods...Some Keith Black 237 .030 pistons...Sealed power Moly rings...Clevite Series P rod and main bearings going in my 1973 440 .030 over block. I decided to stay with the same cam and such...want to run a little cooler so I can turn the A/C on. I spent 900 bucks on all of the A/C stuff and it gets hot here. Offering up my .060 over short block to the machine shop for labor. Had the forged crank turned .010 and it and the pistons, rods and rings are going to the machine shop in the morning.
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What kind of compression are you expecting with this piston? And what cc heads are you using?
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Originally Posted by Garys69RR
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What kind of compression are you expecting with this piston? And what cc heads are you using?
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My new/old 440 block
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First of all I use a very good machine shop. 100% Mopar knowledge based. They do the others also. My block cleaned up nice at .030 over. They cleaned up the deck with milling it .010. And most important they use the torque plates when boring and honing the cylinder bores. If yours doesn't have them or use them go somewhere else. I brought one rod and all the main bearings over to them today. They will align hone the mains and check the bearing clearances. I hope to have it out of the shop and ready for assembly on Tuesday.
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I got the block home last night.
Okay I got home late last night then had to cruise to the storage to pick up a motor stand so block is in the back of the truck till this morning.
Hot tanked and magna-fluxed Torque plate bored and honed .030 Milled .010 on the deck rotating assembly balanced line honed mains to set up bearing clearance rods honed/re-sized for bearing clearance drilled/tapped for 1/2" pickup cam bearings installed brass freeze plugs installed bronze distributor bushing Out the door for $850 bucks. :nx: |
Block is in the garage.
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Good thing I get a good workout at work throwing cases of beer from a pallet to a vertical storage tower. I got up this morning and got the block attached to the engine stand and then rolled it up the driveway into the garage. Nice and clean looking. After a couple of questions tonight I got the pistons attached to the connecting rods and two more boxes are out in the recycle bin.
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My Holley Fuel pump broke
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I took my fuel pump out and found that it was in pieces. The lever and spring fell out.
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I got my piston rings filed to size tonight. .028 gap on the top rings and .018 on the second rings. Would have gotten them on the pistons but I couldn't find my piston ring pliers. I think I got jacked.
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Last night I got to page 10 on your BBD thread, great job, It was like reading a suspense novel, I couldn't stop until you figured out what the problem was, got everything back together and put it in by yourself and fired it up. Great pics of your build and install into the Dart, I'm lovin it! Will definitely be following this thread!
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Originally Posted by Newf Wit a 440
(Post 80999)
Last night I got to page 10 on your BBD thread, great job, It was like reading a suspense novel, I couldn't stop until you figured out what the problem was, got everything back together and put it in by yourself and fired it up. Great pics of your build and install into the Dart, I'm lovin it! Will definitely be following this thread!
Cheers, Joe |
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I stubbed my toe last night.
My man cave is the garage and the dining room. I get to use the table as a desk and that's also where I store alot of my parts. Well last night I stubbed my toe on the crankshaft so it was time for it to go. I got it stabbed in the motor. I torqued it in three equal steps of 55..75..and then 95 ft lbs. I use Clevite assy lube and Arp fastener lube. I also clocked the rear main seal so that both ends would be in the machined part of the block and retainer. I usually stab the camshaft first so I can hold it up from the bottom of the motor which makes it alot easier. This time I am doing it in reverse order. Friday the pistons will be in. Attachment 14873 Attachment 14874 Attachment 14875 |
Pistons are in there.
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The grand daughter showed up Friday night. I wore her out before she wore me out. But no 440 progress until yesterday. Got all eight pistons in there. I didn't have a good straight edge but I like how that piston comes up maybe a little above the deck.
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I decided to try the 1/2" pickup tube before I go an farther. It screwed in there just fine. My need some tweeking with my Dutch forearm.
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Got some paint.
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More than I need but I had to order it so I made sure I got plenty. Found it at $5.65 at Summit Racing. I have always used Dupli-color engine enamel but decided to try this on a recommendation. Guess I be painting something this weekend. Hemi Orange.
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38 dollar insurance policy turned up today
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Hasn't been painting weather but hope it stays dry and warmer this weekend so I can get the block and other parts painted. A friend of mine suggested I might have some main caps walking using the factory main fasteners. So for 38 bucks I got a set of ARP main bolts. I am also going stainless fasteners on this motor. The black anodized ones actually rust around here.
So I removed the factory main fastners tonight and installed the ARP fasteners. Torqued them to 100 ft lbs. They actually torque better with the washers. The factory ones are going in the metal bin at my work. The rear seal retainer was a ton of fun. I had to use a pry bar to break it loose. Then I had to scrape it and clean it real good. I didn't use the seals that Indy sends with it. I use the Right Stuff gasket maker and I could tell it sealed real good the first time. Hence the pry bar. Attachment 14831 Attachment 14832 Attachment 14833 |
I ran my Combustion Ratio tonight
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I ran mine just for shits and grins and I came up with the following. Using the Felpro 8519's head gaskets and judging that my pistons are at zero deck and not above deck and before I have the 84cc heads shaved. The pistons have 5cc valve notches taken out of them thus the -5 cc. 10.18:1. I am hoping to bump it up a tad by cleaning up the heads.
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Painted the block today
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It was sunny and warmed up today so I did the five car suffle and got the block painted.
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Very nice work ! Was just thinking DId you ever consider dropping the K frame installing everything and then lifting it up... Or dropping the body down over it..
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How did you like the Rusto over the Dupli-color? What temp where you at when you did the painting, am in the East it's cold right now. I like how the color looks from your pics. Thanks Joe
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Originally Posted by TVLynn
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Very nice work ! Was just thinking DId you ever consider dropping the K frame installing everything and then lifting it up... Or dropping the body down over it..
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Originally Posted by Joe's challenger
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How did you like the Rusto over the Dupli-color? What temp where you at when you did the painting, am in the East it's cold right now. I like how the color looks from your pics. Thanks Joe
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It was cold yesterday and I had my monthly Houston Mopar meeting so I came home and took the tape off then bagged the motor. I got to get busy these next upcoming weeks.
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Well I was busy today
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Real nice day today. I finally got my old motor out of the Dart today. I busted the heads off and removed the cam and lifters. Wow glad I did. The roller bearing button on the end of the cam almost ate through the timing cover. :yikes: I already have a new cover on the way and am going to use another type of button on this build. I will also clean up the heads tomorrow and take them for a close .010" shave. The lifters, cam, fuel pump pushrod and distributor gear look brand new.
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Here's the cam button I am going to get..I will check the clearance to the front cover better this time.
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What did you use as a primer for the block?
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Originally Posted by 67 GTX
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What did you use as a primer for the block?
Are you going to clear coat it? |
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I got some more stainless bolts for the valve covers, timing cover, oil pan, water pump housing, alternator, distributor holddown and HV oil pump. Things down here rust. If ARP made stainless steel head bolts I would get them to. I have some more of them coming from Summit Racing to finish out the rest.
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