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Old 11-29-2009 | 02:47 PM
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Help with Charging issue

Hi everyone,

Today I started up the RR to see the ammeter discharging and my voltmeter only reading about 11.8 volts. Battery reads about 12 volts between the terminals when the car is running. As soon as I pull the negative cable the car dies. I am measuring about 20 volts on the output of the alternator itself (which I bought brand new this summer along with a brand new voltage regulator) and I also measured 20V on the connector going into the firewall. I pulled the voltage regulator and measured 12 volts DC (with the key in the on position) between both pins and ground per the instructions of the troubleshooting section in the Mopar service manual. Also, I changed the VR and no luck either.


Any ideas on where to look next???

thanks,

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Old 11-29-2009 | 02:58 PM
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What condition is the battery in ? What do you get with engine off just from the posts with the meter ?
Old 11-29-2009 | 03:01 PM
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I get about the same 12.2V with the car running or not. The battery is about 2 years old.
Old 11-29-2009 | 03:52 PM
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I have the output and 2 fields and the wiring harness has to field connections. Why would I have to ground one? This just started happening. Thanks for your help on this.....
Old 11-29-2009 | 04:45 PM
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it's a '70 Roadrunner. I put a new alternator and voltage regulator in the car this summer and things have been fine until today. Now, I get about 12V on the voltmeter when running. Normally I would see about 14.5V across the battery with the car running. Also the ammeter is visually discharging. It's never done that until today. No more pulling of the cables ....I promise
Old 11-29-2009 | 10:26 PM
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depends on if you have the original style regulator (electro mechanical). If you do have it, this was designed to work with a alternator with only one field terminal. As stated, you CAN use the dual field alt IF you ground one of the field terminals. Dont matter which one. Of course the newer style electronic regulators require the use of the dual field alt. Is that a misprint of "20 volts going into the firewall"?
Old 11-29-2009 | 10:28 PM
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my guess: diodes starting to go bad.
Old 11-30-2009 | 05:09 AM
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Yes, I measure 20V at the firewall yet I don't see it reflected on the ammeter. My hope is that the new powermaster alternator I installed in June this year is the culprit.
Old 04-25-2010 | 01:25 PM
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Update: Pulled bulkhead connector apartbased on article I read here: http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/amp-gauges.shtml

and it looks like I am a victim of this problem. Does anyone have any good details on how to remove the dash? I would like to re-wire according to the article but having a tough time trying to get the dash out. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,

--mike
Old 04-25-2010 | 06:06 PM
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very good info. will have to store that in the back of my head
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