2.2 LITER TIMING

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Old 12-29-2009, 06:25 PM
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2.2 LITER TIMING

Can anyone tell me what I need to do to check the timing on a 85, 2.2 liter, multi port fuel injected, turbo engine? Here's my problem, the timing mark on the cam is correct, the crank shaft timing and the intermediate shaft timing is correct, the distibutor is pointing to # 1 cylinder at top dead center, the timing mark on the torque is at top dead center, but when I start the car and put a timing light on it, the timing mark is no where in sight. I do have the temp sensor disconnected. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I do have the timing mark colored white, and I am checking it with the light connected to the # 1 plug, if # 1 is the 1st plug on the passenger side of the car.
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the mark on the cam with the belt cover on when you take the plug out at the top is the hole in the sprocket perfectly centered in the window at top dead or is it forward just a hair. if its not centered perfectly. your off 1 tooth on the belt, this will cause you not to find the timint mark under the light running. but will b close enough for it to start and run. when you try the timing, have you turned the dizzy way out t left or right trying to find the mark? if so and the mark still doesnt come up your more then 1 tooth off. the dizzy base should be straight across looking down at it. this will put the timing mark at roughly 4% adv.ive had them be 3 teth off and the cam and crank be right on, then when I usse that funky tensioner tol the intermed. shaft rolls off the mark, thast the culprit most of the time. It really takes 2 guy to do the belt adj. when I worked at the dodge dealer, we always had another tech watch the inter shaft for us, just becausse of that. good luck.
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You were right!! The Intermediate shaft was off, apparently when I put tension on the belt it moved the pully. Timing is now on and set to 14 degrees BTC. Thanks for your help, it's really appreciated.

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your welcome, glad i could help. That tensioner tools a joke isnt it?
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Originally Posted by rr69half6bbl
your welcome, glad i could help. That tensioner tools a joke isnt it?
Everything about this car is weird!
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lol, I know, when i started at the dealership, they were just a few years old then, it was a hard adjustment from working on muscle cars to dailies, then having half the work room from my runner. but in time, I got used to it. then it wasnt so bad, actually ,I liked working on the 88-91 turbo cars, a little more room, and the alot of the emmisions lines were eliminated, a lot less complex. 83-86, man alot of vacume lines, and hoses. what a mess. they were all bad about blowing head gaskets, around 65,00 miles. it took like 3 1/2 hrs to do a head gasket job on the 83-6`s, but in 87 w/ the new intercooler setups. It took like 45min. less time to do a job. It was the early 90`s, they started making real power out of those motors, it ws actually very imoressive for the platform you were working from. 230-300 h.p. and 12.60`s in the quarter.
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lol, I know, when i started at the dealership, they were just a few years old then, it was a hard adjustment from working on muscle cars to dailies, then having half the work room from my runner. but in time, I got used to it. then it wasnt so bad, actually ,I liked working on the 88-91 turbo cars, a little more room, and the alot of the emmisions lines were eliminated, a lot less complex. 83-86, man alot of vacume lines, and hoses. what a mess. they were all bad about blowing head gaskets, around 65,00 miles. it took like 3 1/2 hrs to do a head gasket job on the 83-6`s, but in 87 w/ the new intercooler setups. It took like 45min. less time to do a job. It was the early 90`s, they started making real power out of those motors, it ws actually very imoressive for the platform you were working from. 230-300 h.p. and 12.60`s in the quarter.
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I play around with Mopar hobby restorations and I'm use to working on Muscle cars or Lead Sleds, but with the price of buying these cars I thought I'd try a turbo "K" car. What the heck was I thinking!!!!!

Here's another question for you, any idea how you get the headrest off the front seats?
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Originally Posted by rr69half6bbl
lol, I know, when i started at the dealership, they were just a few years old then, it was a hard adjustment from working on muscle cars to dailies, then having half the work room from my runner. but in time, I got used to it. then it wasnt so bad, actually ,I liked working on the 88-91 turbo cars, a little more room, and the alot of the emmisions lines were eliminated, a lot less complex. 83-86, man alot of vacume lines, and hoses. what a mess. they were all bad about blowing head gaskets, around 65,00 miles. it took like 3 1/2 hrs to do a head gasket job on the 83-6`s, but in 87 w/ the new intercooler setups. It took like 45min. less time to do a job. It was the early 90`s, they started making real power out of those motors, it ws actually very imoressive for the platform you were working from. 230-300 h.p. and 12.60`s in the quarter.
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On the tonas, you actually had to get into the back seat to reach it. but Im thinkng its on the outside post of the rest, theres a small plastic tab you push that in and hold it then it releases the posts. if the tabs not there its possible it was broken ,if so you should be able to see the slot next to the post.
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I don't see a place to push any type of release. There is a plastic piece that slides down in the seat but it only appears to be a guide for the head rest post. I guess maybe the 600 is different than the tonas.
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ok, yep different, on the plastic piece, can you push in and pull up on it while you move the headrest up?I would think it allows it to release somehow.
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