Maley

Well, then to my first major problem.

I needed to drop a new motor in the duster. It had a 340 (but the previous owner needed to keep the motor) so i found a 360 to drop in it.

Also, while i had the motor out, the K Frame was damaged slightly and i had access to a nice healthy K frame. So i swapped out the old one for the new one. ( for what its worth, i believe the new one came out of a 73 duster, and it has a different style of motor mounts.

So, when i went to drop the 360 into place, the exhaust was sitting directly on top of the steering box. It was missing the drivers side motor mount by about a half an inch. But I have no idea how to get the motor to sit down all the way.

Any Ideas?

maybe..
Is there a different style of motor mounts that might make the motor sit higher?
(but will the torque cause the engine to spin and hit the steering box?

I was thinking maybe remove the steering box, and then put it back in after the motor is in?
(but then i dont think the steering box will even fit)

Any ideas would be a great help
Thanks!
-Maley

440roadrunner

FIRST you need to make sure WHAT K frame you have. Is it out of a slant six car, or a V8 car.

Look here: (way down the page)

http://www.engine-swaps.com/Pages/Pr.../K-Frames.html

You probably have the "spool" mounts?

The older pad type mounts consisists of TWO pieces. The metal ENGINE BRACKET which not only must fit the engine, but the body as well 318 brackets are DIFFERENT than 340/360 brackets, and go TO THE REAR of the casting ears on the engine. The second part of the mount is the pad itself

The newer spool mounts can be bought "one piece" IE the bracket/ spool all together, or the spool isolator can be had separately.

WHAT EXHAUST manifolds are you using? You cannot use most 360 manifolds, they MUST be for an "A" body, so whatever you had on the 340 is what you need to use (assuming they previously fit the body.)

Maley

Based on that website, the K frame i have is correct. '70-74 E-Body V8 K-Member

The manifolds are the ones that came off of the 340, so they fit before. But i dont have a clue as to what kind of headers they are. They are quite bulky though, i was thinking maybe if i get headers that hug the engine more that i will gain the clearence i need.

Back to the motor mounts, i got them from a duster finatic a while back who said they are motor mounts for a 360.

Im at a loss

440roadrunner

E body???

Maley

As embarrassed as I am to say it, I have no idea... :/

Maley

Its an A body, and your web site says that this is the correct k frame
(im just going off of what i remember from looking at the K frame, its in the car now.
It has the slanted slots for the engine mounts, and the first one on the page looks correct " '67-72 A-Body K-Member "

sorry about that

mr340

I have my 340 out and can get you all the pics you need of an original 340 setup, Hint, the 340 K-frame has a small washer welded on the front to ID it as 340.

Maley

Yeah, some pictures would be great. I know the old K frame that came out did have the washer welded onto it. But I dont recall if the new one does. But as i said before it is a different style of K frame, I think the one i have might sit too low compared to the one that came out. Any pictures you can offer would be great

Thanks!

Cazper_Crow

The problem is that you got a slant six frame i had the same problem and i had to cut the mounts put them on the engine and set it down the weld them where the sat well fabrication.

440roadrunner

There are several areas of concern

"Somewhere" around your car model, Ma went from the "pad" (rectangular, flat) engine mounts to the "spool" (cylindrical) mounts."

The only concern there is getting the correct engine brackets, and you can easily see that difference

The 360s and 340s have different engine mount ears, but even if you have the correct spool mounts for a 340, you could modify them. I believe the 340 / 360 passenger side mount is the same.

The only real thing that makes sense to me, is that you actually have a slant six K frame. I suggest you take another, careful look at the posted website. They show measurements on how to tell the difference between a /6 and V8 K frame

But even if you have a /6 K, you can get "swap" mounts from the Schumaker website, which means that a V8 should fit a /6 K frame with the correct "swap" mounts.

Do you have the transmission mount properly located, IE is the engine far enough front/ back?

bremereric

Once you figure out what type mounts are required ie biscuit type or spool mount go and visit engine swaps made easy and talk to Mike Schumacher.

http://www.engine-swaps.com/

Mr.Duster

There def should be a washer welded on the k frame for a 340 one. Long as its a v8 k frame member for 318-360 should work just have to check the mounts out. if you could post some pictures of it would be great. i have the washer welded on my k frame memeber. Just got to make sure its not a slanty k frame.

440roadrunner

There's plenty of guys who claim that they have / had an original 340 car that did NOT have a washer on the K frame. I'm not sure I'd bet money one way or 't other.

Mr.Duster

Yeah its hard to say theres so many people that say they did or didnt. I have one on mine though when i had the engine out idk if the guy before me put it on there himself or not.

440 camaro

That's an A body

440 camaro

Put a 440 in my 72 340 duster headers were the only fab issue

TVLynn

IF IT IS an E body it places the engine differently

pro-tech

ics:We Need Pictures!!!! You said in your post you Said the one you have is an E-body K member...A Duster is an A-body car and could be why nothing is fitting...I never heard of the engine sitting/hitting on the steering box mine dropped right in and fit perfectly...When I went from 340 to 360....Bill

mr340

this thread is 2 years old guys.....

pro-tech

Thanks Mr340...
Wow didn't even catch that one...Thanks 440camaro (whatever that is) for opening an old as dirt thread... As they say maybe I should look closer next time, that happens a lot here... ...Bill

mr340

And that's why they pay me the big bucks .... wait, they don't pay me anything but its still a fun job.