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Old 12-20-2011, 07:35 PM
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Stuck removing 440 crank

Hi All,

I was wondering if someone could tell me if I'm missing something here. I'm at the point of pulling the Crank out of my 440 block and I've run into this issue. The manual says I'll need a 7/6 12point socket to remove the rear seal retainer bolts(alum square box) which also happens to half-block the last 2 main bearing bolts. I have 2 12 point sockets but neither of them seems to fit into the hole surrounding those bolts in the Alum retainer. I'll try and add a pic to this post and hopefully someone can give me a little direction. One of my sockets is a proto, so not exactly thick wall. The other is just a generic.

The only way I see as getting to these bolts is:

1. Die grind around the hole to relieve it to allow the socket down.
2. Grind down the outside of the socket to fit the hole.
3. Try and source a Snap on thin wall socket.

Has anyone else run into this problem before? Thanks for any help.

Joe Welder
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:50 PM
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I think they are 3/8" 12 point bolts. Try a 3/8" socket and let me know.

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Old 12-20-2011, 08:16 PM
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I think your right...although I'll have to wait till tomorrow as my sets are six point and I'll need to borrow one from work. Thanks.

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Old 12-20-2011, 09:26 PM
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From personal experience It's definitely a 3/8 12 point socket..It's been a long time I think it also needs to be a deep socket
Old 12-22-2011, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TVLynn
From personal experience It's definitely a 3/8 12 point socket..It's been a long time I think it also needs to be a deep socket
I have the socket, cranks coming out tonight. I'll finally get to see those main webs. Then cleanup time. Do you know the size of the NPT plugs in the block so I can borrow the taps to chase the threads? Thanks. If I were to guess I would say 1/4.

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I would guess 3/8" npt tap
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What are you using a tap on?
Old 12-24-2011, 09:30 AM
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Red face

Originally Posted by crmzendrgone
What are you using a tap on?
NPT taper taps on the oil gallery pipe plug threads to clean them up. There is about a half a dozen of them on the block. You have to be carefull chasing these threads though, cause they are tapered and if you go too deep you risk not having a proper seal.

I will also use bottoming taps on all threads in the block for better torque values when it comes time to reassemble the engine. Especially the mains and head bolt holes. These are an NC thread though. I will have to measure thread count on the bolts to figure out which ones I need.

I am going to do this prior to sending out for hot tanking.

Cheers,

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Originally Posted by bremereric
I think they are 3/8" 12 point bolts. Try a 3/8" socket and let me know.

Was definitely a 3/8's, No need for a deep socket though.

Thanks,

Joe
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