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red64valiant Aug 17, 2012 04:47 PM

rear end question
 
I think my 64 valiant has a 9inch ford rear end in it. Does anyone no how to tell or if you have heard of this before what would it have came from. I think it must be about a 3.91 but haven't determind that for sure. Would like to change to a little more of a road gear. Thanks

TVLynn Aug 18, 2012 03:01 AM

9" ford is similar to the 8 3/4 with a removable center section. Changing gears is simple Just swap center sections.
Has great aftermarket support

78D200 Aug 18, 2012 03:22 AM

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Here is what most MOpar rear axles will look like. Doesn't mean that someone could have swapped it out for something else though.

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red64valiant Aug 18, 2012 08:53 PM

Thanks for the reply Cant seem to read numbers and letters or make much since of what i see. May just have to take it out this winter,and then figure it out. Thanks

78D200 Aug 19, 2012 05:42 AM

Take a coupld of pics (front and back) of it, post them up and we'll see if we can help ID it.

Chryco Psycho Sep 29, 2012 05:33 PM

if there are 5? bolts around the front pinion yolk where the driveshaft bolts on so you can remove the pinion then it is a Ford 8 or 9"

78D200 Sep 30, 2012 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by Chryco Psycho (Post 92045)
if there are 5? bolts around the front pinion yolk where the driveshaft bolts on so you can remove the pinion then it is a Ford 8 or 9"

They both had that 5 bolt pattern. I don't know enough about them tho to tell you how to ID them.

440roadrunner Sep 30, 2012 10:26 AM

Id'in Ferd 8, 9, 9+" rear ends

The quick way to tell a Ford 8 from a 9 IF you know it's a Ford, is to look at the bottom bolt below the pinion. An 8", you can access all the lower bolts with a socket/ extension. On 9" rears, there is one bolt which the pinion casting overhangs, and you MUST use a box/ open end wrench.

But the Ferds are MORE complicated by a larger Lincoln rear, which looks a lot like a 9", a 9 3/8, which according to "Kevinstang" is also appearing in some pickup trucks.

But I saw an axle for sale on Craigs the other night and I STILL do not know what it was. It was a 3rd member type, but was not Ford or Chrysler, nor AMC. Might have been 55-57 Chev, or the old Olds or Pontiac axle.

http://www.kevinstang.com/Ninecase.htm

http://www.fordification.com/tech/rearends_ford01.htm

I don't know if they will fit the early A's unmodified, but I have a completely stock Ferd 9" under my 67. It is out of a Lincoln Versaille, built on the Ferd Fairmont/ Merc Monarch platform. For a VERY few years, the Verailles used a 9" with disc brakes, and the spring perches are only about 1/2" wider total than the 67. It IS a tad wider which can be made up with wheel offset.

I would not do this again, that is, the Ferd disc brakes, as parts for them are difficult to come by. I may, if needed, rework it to use Jeep rear disc setup.

red64valiant Oct 2, 2012 08:08 PM

red64valiant
 
Thanks for all the replys I am now sure it is not a mopar rear end. Just got it up on jack stand tonight will get pictures, and more info and try again. I am almost sure it is a ford. Just not sure what it is out of doesn't look to have been cut down.


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