Headers hitting the ground!
05-25-2010, 03:22 PM
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The Gabriel's are history, but Monroe still makes them.
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Air shocks in the back can give you a little on demand too (if they still make them).
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05-25-2010, 06:35 PM
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i have air shocks in the back of my car and the more i raise it up, the worse the front will drag.
05-25-2010, 06:40 PM
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05-25-2010, 06:45 PM
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yea i think 15's would help out, i just didnt want to buy new wheels and tires if i didnt have to. but we will see after i work on it this weekend.
05-27-2010, 04:17 PM
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My guess the problem is a combination of your ride height and wheel/tire setup. I went with 15" all the way around and even with the chunky BFG's the header ground clearance is a little low for my taste on stock ride height specs.
06-13-2010, 06:25 PM
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i cranked the torsion bars up and havent hit the ground yet. and i havent had the steering get stuck either. so i gess that did the trick! the stance is higher but still looks good i think.
thanks for your help guys!!!!
thanks for your help guys!!!!
06-13-2010, 06:40 PM
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Cool - the stance looks fine. IMHO. The wheels "look" a little small both front and rear, so a larger wheel / tire diameter may be something you might want to consider in the future - no rush, she's looking good.
The more I think about it, I did have the same problem when I was running a small block, and that was the fix!
BTW - careful, don't mix the fuels between your two rides - sweet Saber ...
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Cool - the stance looks fine. IMHO. The wheels "look" a little small both front and rear, so a larger wheel / tire diameter may be something you might want to consider in the future - no rush, she's looking good.
The more I think about it, I did have the same problem when I was running a small block, and that was the fix!
BTW - careful, don't mix the fuels between your two rides - sweet Saber ...
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06-13-2010, 08:31 PM
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yeah, i have the same problem, but only on driveways and speed bumps, but I drive on it to miss, but sometimes I dont. I have gas shocks though, which I find to be a little bit of the problem. I have P215/60R14's on the front, which is a little bit of another problem. I am going to change them to 70 series when they are bald or when I do the front drum to disc conversion. put 15's back on the front and then by non gas shocks, should handle a little better too!
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06-14-2010, 06:34 PM
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i think i might go to 15" rims and tires next year to.
yeah, i have the same problem, but only on driveways and speed bumps, but I drive on it to miss, but sometimes I dont. I have gas shocks though, which I find to be a little bit of the problem. I have P215/60R14's on the front, which is a little bit of another problem. I am going to change them to 70 series when they are bald or when I do the front drum to disc conversion. put 15's back on the front and then by non gas shocks, should handle a little better too!
06-15-2010, 04:15 PM
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12-14-2010, 07:34 PM
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Whoa... whoa... you just can't go *****-nilly & crank up the torsion bars. They are an alignment specification = ride height. With the proper size wheels & tires, tires properly inflated, the height must be then measured. From a level ground to the lowest point of the steering-arm vs. the lowest point of the adjusting pivot. There will be a difference. It must be what the specs are for your car. Somewhere around 1 7/8 , but the specs must be checked for the specific year & model. Then, caster/camber/toe-in are adjusted. If your headers hit the ground after the alignment, you have bad shocks or bad headers.
12-15-2010, 06:03 AM
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Welcome aboard.
Sorry to break this to you but a lot of the cars we're discussing are no wear near stock. The torsion bars can and in a lot of cases should be adjusted to the specific situation. Also, given the age (and history) of a lot of our cars, the frames are less than perfectly straight. So, while what you're saying may be correct, it has to be taken with a grain of salt - and frankly, adjusting ride height via torsion bar adjustment has been done successfully too many times to debate.
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Welcome aboard.
Sorry to break this to you but a lot of the cars we're discussing are no wear near stock. The torsion bars can and in a lot of cases should be adjusted to the specific situation. Also, given the age (and history) of a lot of our cars, the frames are less than perfectly straight. So, while what you're saying may be correct, it has to be taken with a grain of salt - and frankly, adjusting ride height via torsion bar adjustment has been done successfully too many times to debate.
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12-15-2010, 01:27 PM
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I had this same problem with my dart A body tho w/318 small block, freakn headers would always scrap on bumps or dips, got the ride hight pretty high in the front but the way i drive it kept on scraping, went with the headman headers, bent and smashed the **** of them, went with the patriot headers did the same thing, so just got tired of it and went back to stock manifolds. I would like to go with DOugs headers but they are out of my budjet and the TTIs i thinks its way too expensive but you get wat you pay for. DO they have shorty headers that would fit the darts with power steering??
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Robby -
Welcome aboard.
Sorry to break this to you but a lot of the cars we're discussing are no wear near stock. The torsion bars can and in a lot of cases should be adjusted to the specific situation. Also, given the age (and history) of a lot of our cars, the frames are less than perfectly straight. So, while what you're saying may be correct, it has to be taken with a grain of salt - and frankly, adjusting ride height via torsion bar adjustment has been done successfully too many times to debate.
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Welcome aboard.
Sorry to break this to you but a lot of the cars we're discussing are no wear near stock. The torsion bars can and in a lot of cases should be adjusted to the specific situation. Also, given the age (and history) of a lot of our cars, the frames are less than perfectly straight. So, while what you're saying may be correct, it has to be taken with a grain of salt - and frankly, adjusting ride height via torsion bar adjustment has been done successfully too many times to debate.
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12-15-2010, 07:57 PM
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Robby -
No one is saying that you should drive around with wheels out of alignment, (even thought some folks do these days, just because it looks "cool") but the cars we drive are rarely to factory spec. Using the torsion bars to adjust front-end height is a fairly old, simple and safe procedure, providing you know what you're doing.
Sorry to break this to you, but most cars of the vintage were dealing are less than perfectly straight. Just reality.
BTW - jointing a forum and looking for a fight on your first post isn't exactly cool.
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No one is saying that you should drive around with wheels out of alignment, (even thought some folks do these days, just because it looks "cool") but the cars we drive are rarely to factory spec. Using the torsion bars to adjust front-end height is a fairly old, simple and safe procedure, providing you know what you're doing.
Sorry to break this to you, but most cars of the vintage were dealing are less than perfectly straight. Just reality.
BTW - jointing a forum and looking for a fight on your first post isn't exactly cool.
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12-15-2010, 09:40 PM
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Robby -
No one is saying that you should drive around with wheels out of alignment, (even thought some folks do these days, just because it looks "cool") but the cars we drive are rarely to factory spec. Using the torsion bars to adjust front-end height is a fairly old, simple and safe procedure, providing you know what you're doing.
Sorry to break this to you, but most cars of the vintage were dealing are less than perfectly straight. Just reality.
BTW - jointing a forum and looking for a fight on your first post isn't exactly cool.
Archer
No one is saying that you should drive around with wheels out of alignment, (even thought some folks do these days, just because it looks "cool") but the cars we drive are rarely to factory spec. Using the torsion bars to adjust front-end height is a fairly old, simple and safe procedure, providing you know what you're doing.
Sorry to break this to you, but most cars of the vintage were dealing are less than perfectly straight. Just reality.
BTW - jointing a forum and looking for a fight on your first post isn't exactly cool.
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12-15-2010, 09:46 PM
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I had this same problem with my dart A body tho w/318 small block, freakn headers would always scrap on bumps or dips, got the ride hight pretty high in the front but the way i drive it kept on scraping, went with the headman headers, bent and smashed the **** of them, went with the patriot headers did the same thing, so just got tired of it and went back to stock manifolds. I would like to go with DOugs headers but they are out of my budjet and the TTIs i thinks its way too expensive but you get wat you pay for. DO they have shorty headers that would fit the darts with power steering??
There weren't as many header manufacturers out there as there are now. The unwritten rule was that Hooker Headers seemed to tuck up a bit tighter than the competition's and the Hooker's were also more expensive than the competition's.
Just a thought.
12-16-2010, 02:37 AM
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I had this same problem with my dart A body tho w/318 small block, freakn headers would always scrap on bumps or dips, got the ride hight pretty high in the front but the way i drive it kept on scraping, went with the headman headers, bent and smashed the **** of them, went with the patriot headers did the same thing, so just got tired of it and went back to stock manifolds. I would like to go with DOugs headers but they are out of my budjet and the TTIs i thinks its way too expensive but you get wat you pay for. DO they have shorty headers that would fit the darts with power steering??
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Robby -
No one is saying that you should drive around with wheels out of alignment, (even thought some folks do these days, just because it looks "cool") but the cars we drive are rarely to factory spec. Using the torsion bars to adjust front-end height is a fairly old, simple and safe procedure, providing you know what you're doing.
Sorry to break this to you, but most cars of the vintage were dealing are less than perfectly straight. Just reality.
BTW - jointing a forum and looking for a fight on your first post isn't exactly cool.
Archer
No one is saying that you should drive around with wheels out of alignment, (even thought some folks do these days, just because it looks "cool") but the cars we drive are rarely to factory spec. Using the torsion bars to adjust front-end height is a fairly old, simple and safe procedure, providing you know what you're doing.
Sorry to break this to you, but most cars of the vintage were dealing are less than perfectly straight. Just reality.
BTW - jointing a forum and looking for a fight on your first post isn't exactly cool.
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01-23-2011, 05:28 AM
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Install a good set of front shocks. Your stance looks fine. Then after the shocks are on, if it still bottoms some and steering locks then crank up the torsion bars a little. I believe you will be amazed at the difference a good set of shocks will make.
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