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11-09-2009, 02:32 AM
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No problems man, ask away.
When you say rolling chassis you mean to take everything out, engine/tranny combo, interior. Right down to the shell ? You can do it for sure.. A LOT OF WORK. Now is a good time to source what you will need and price some things out so there will be no surprises and it will give you better understanding of the scope of the project. I am sort of guessing at this point, are you replacing the interior ? Or just taking it out and putting it back in ?
Things you can count on
1. Spending money..haha, ok I'll get back on track here
Autobody stuff...tools, filler, sanding paper, sand, paint, primer, reducer etc, there's a grand...depending on the shape of the car.
Ya see what I am getting at, make a rough list and attack it from there.
Oh ya, post up some pics so we will have a better understanding of what your up against.
When you say rolling chassis you mean to take everything out, engine/tranny combo, interior. Right down to the shell ? You can do it for sure.. A LOT OF WORK. Now is a good time to source what you will need and price some things out so there will be no surprises and it will give you better understanding of the scope of the project. I am sort of guessing at this point, are you replacing the interior ? Or just taking it out and putting it back in ?
Things you can count on
1. Spending money..haha, ok I'll get back on track here
Autobody stuff...tools, filler, sanding paper, sand, paint, primer, reducer etc, there's a grand...depending on the shape of the car.
Ya see what I am getting at, make a rough list and attack it from there.
Oh ya, post up some pics so we will have a better understanding of what your up against.
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11-09-2009, 03:58 PM
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Well, I definitely want to redo the interior at some point - Ill take pics of the car this weekend so y'all can give me some advice on what I should do. I was kind of curious if an autobody shop could take the car in and clean up/undercoat it without too much dismantling happening, but I don't know if that's feasible. I do know that I want to rebuild the engine and tranny, and go to a floor-shift if possible. The less I actually HAVE to do, the better.
New paint for sure, and the seats/dash need cleanup/replacement. The wiring harness is all fuckered up inside too from Previous Owner.
New paint for sure, and the seats/dash need cleanup/replacement. The wiring harness is all fuckered up inside too from Previous Owner.
11-09-2009, 04:11 PM
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For sure, we freaks on the east coast get salt etc on the daily drivers and we undercoat the ***** out of everything. Ya pics would be an asset to us out in cyberspace to give more accurate advice.
A lot you could do yourself for sure. There are lots of you tube vids also on body work etc. Check em out.
A lot you could do yourself for sure. There are lots of you tube vids also on body work etc. Check em out.
11-10-2009, 08:00 PM
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I'm running into issues with finding parts specifically for the '76 Cordoba. It is making me sad. Lots of things listed for B-Body 6.6l 400, but not specifically for the 'Doba.
Headers, for instance. I have been searching high and low for headers. TTI has them for a B-Body 400 up to '74 only. Same for their dual exhaust kits. I would like to switch to dual exhaust and headers (though preferably with cat's and it looks like the TTI kits, while easy to do at home with no real welding necessary, do not have cat's).
I was looking at these http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BIG-33130FLT/ and they are listed as fitting a 6.6l 400. But will they fit my car? Anyone have any advice here? And what about going to a dual exhaust, is my best bet to call TTI and ask, or is there somewhere else to look?
Same with looking for a kit to rebuild the front end. Lots for "muscle car" mopars, but can't find so many for mine. Absolutely cant find anything as far as replacing the rear suspension. Don't even know where to start, there.
Thanks guys. Forgot my camera today but taking it with us tomorrow.
Headers, for instance. I have been searching high and low for headers. TTI has them for a B-Body 400 up to '74 only. Same for their dual exhaust kits. I would like to switch to dual exhaust and headers (though preferably with cat's and it looks like the TTI kits, while easy to do at home with no real welding necessary, do not have cat's).
I was looking at these http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BIG-33130FLT/ and they are listed as fitting a 6.6l 400. But will they fit my car? Anyone have any advice here? And what about going to a dual exhaust, is my best bet to call TTI and ask, or is there somewhere else to look?
Same with looking for a kit to rebuild the front end. Lots for "muscle car" mopars, but can't find so many for mine. Absolutely cant find anything as far as replacing the rear suspension. Don't even know where to start, there.
Thanks guys. Forgot my camera today but taking it with us tomorrow.
11-11-2009, 04:44 PM
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PICTURES! Hoorah!
So I went up and took pictures today. As you can see, the car is in generally good solid condition overall. No bumps or dings, just worn paint, a little rust here and there:
So you can see where the previous owner fubar'd the wiring harness, when I initially went in there, the ignition wiring was melted (apparently due to them connecting the battery backwards and trying to start her) and the ignition switch had to be replaced. it looked like they ripped the harness all up to install a stereo - you can see the battery connection under the hood and in the driver's side where all the wiring is coming down. It was all held up with duct-tape so it wouldn't fall down in front of the pedals.
No under-car shots yet as it started raining and I wasn't about to get down in the gravel and jack her up in the rain.
Thoughts, opinions, suggestions?
I was wondering - can a car have an undercoat done without being all torn down? Or am I looking and dropping the front/rear suspension bits and tearing the engine/tranny out for that for sure? Eventually I DO want to rebuild the engine and tranny but I would rather have the rust underneath taken care of for now and worry about the rest of it as I go. Planning on moving to a rainy area within the next year and hate to take her up there and have her rust from the bottom up. I dunno if a shop can do that kinda thing or not, clean her up and undercoat, or if I should just tear her down now and get it over with.
So I went up and took pictures today. As you can see, the car is in generally good solid condition overall. No bumps or dings, just worn paint, a little rust here and there:
So you can see where the previous owner fubar'd the wiring harness, when I initially went in there, the ignition wiring was melted (apparently due to them connecting the battery backwards and trying to start her) and the ignition switch had to be replaced. it looked like they ripped the harness all up to install a stereo - you can see the battery connection under the hood and in the driver's side where all the wiring is coming down. It was all held up with duct-tape so it wouldn't fall down in front of the pedals.
No under-car shots yet as it started raining and I wasn't about to get down in the gravel and jack her up in the rain.
Thoughts, opinions, suggestions?
I was wondering - can a car have an undercoat done without being all torn down? Or am I looking and dropping the front/rear suspension bits and tearing the engine/tranny out for that for sure? Eventually I DO want to rebuild the engine and tranny but I would rather have the rust underneath taken care of for now and worry about the rest of it as I go. Planning on moving to a rainy area within the next year and hate to take her up there and have her rust from the bottom up. I dunno if a shop can do that kinda thing or not, clean her up and undercoat, or if I should just tear her down now and get it over with.
11-11-2009, 08:11 PM
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Yeah, I am thinking that she is in good enough condition that I won't have a ton of "oh **** this is rusted through" to worry about. No real body work that needs doing at all. Very happy with it. And the fenders aren't rusted. Bonus.
Now to decide where to start.
I did find a new wiring harness for it at Summit :
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRF-10127/ I wonder if I can't find it cheaper anywhere else, though. And then I still have to order connector ends for the harness and put it all together.
I was also thinking of entirely rerunning the fuel line if it was crap like the sections that I pulled off with this stuff:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SU...0/?image=large
Does anyone have any experience with this stuff? Seems like a better thing to do to run one single line than have rubber line clamped to very thin steel pipe-style line, to rubber line, to fuel pump, to rubber line, etc. I should be able to run this stuff to the gas tank, and just fasten it down with hose-clamps, no?
Now to decide where to start.
I did find a new wiring harness for it at Summit :
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRF-10127/ I wonder if I can't find it cheaper anywhere else, though. And then I still have to order connector ends for the harness and put it all together.
I was also thinking of entirely rerunning the fuel line if it was crap like the sections that I pulled off with this stuff:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SU...0/?image=large
Does anyone have any experience with this stuff? Seems like a better thing to do to run one single line than have rubber line clamped to very thin steel pipe-style line, to rubber line, to fuel pump, to rubber line, etc. I should be able to run this stuff to the gas tank, and just fasten it down with hose-clamps, no?
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11-12-2009, 02:41 AM
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Right on..pics. Cars in great shape man.
If you want the cheap and dirty undercoating to hold you over, get a syphon can hooked to an air compressor and spray under the car with ATF just avoid exhaust pipes etc.
with regards to the fuel line that's "AN" line and should be used with the proper fittings etc. The advantage of the ss line is you can get at it easier if you have too and you can put an inline filter anywhere ya want.
Do you have scrap yards around where you are ? Perhaps you could grab a harness there.
At the end of the day its totally up to you man.
Good score man it's in better shape than I had pictured.
If you want the cheap and dirty undercoating to hold you over, get a syphon can hooked to an air compressor and spray under the car with ATF just avoid exhaust pipes etc.
with regards to the fuel line that's "AN" line and should be used with the proper fittings etc. The advantage of the ss line is you can get at it easier if you have too and you can put an inline filter anywhere ya want.
Do you have scrap yards around where you are ? Perhaps you could grab a harness there.
At the end of the day its totally up to you man.
Good score man it's in better shape than I had pictured.
11-12-2009, 02:54 PM
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Right on..pics. Cars in great shape man.
If you want the cheap and dirty undercoating to hold you over, get a syphon can hooked to an air compressor and spray under the car with ATF just avoid exhaust pipes etc.
with regards to the fuel line that's "AN" line and should be used with the proper fittings etc.
If you want the cheap and dirty undercoating to hold you over, get a syphon can hooked to an air compressor and spray under the car with ATF just avoid exhaust pipes etc.
with regards to the fuel line that's "AN" line and should be used with the proper fittings etc.
I wish I had a garage to work on this car in. I could put her up on jackstands minus the motor and exhaust and whatnot and go at it with a wirebrush and then some POR-15 which I hear makes an excellent sealant - but I figure if I am going to go THAT far it isn't a far cry to just drop the front and rear axle and the rest and just take the shell to get media blasted and sprayed down with POR-15, then topcoated in primer.
11-12-2009, 03:25 PM
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If you are going to go that far contact the media blasting shops and get their 2 cents on the topic..can't hurt right.
AN fittings are a thread type, I think 37 degrees, kind of like JIC fittings for hydraulics. You can't mix fittings or they leak, easy way is too look at summit or a site like that. They all sell AN fittings and probably explain it better than me..haha
But you could make your own fuel line from ss tubing and/or flare kit and viton fuel line ( black stuff ).
Keep us posted bro
AN fittings are a thread type, I think 37 degrees, kind of like JIC fittings for hydraulics. You can't mix fittings or they leak, easy way is too look at summit or a site like that. They all sell AN fittings and probably explain it better than me..haha
But you could make your own fuel line from ss tubing and/or flare kit and viton fuel line ( black stuff ).
Keep us posted bro
11-12-2009, 08:09 PM
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I found a braided fuel line that I like, has the fitting-looking ends that are like hoseclamps inside. Can be ordered in bulk, so I can run my fuel, oil, etc lines all braided as I go, etc. I sent an email out to a big media blasting shop here in town that I think is up near the racetrack, who I believe also do auto restorations. I think if the price is right, I'll go with them for a strip n coat.
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