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Old 02-11-2014, 11:51 PM
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non-lockup 727 with lockup valve body

I have a 1973 challenger 727 tf. I built the engine and it's making 442 hp and 468 tq at the crankshaft . Put the engine in behind the old 727 and she was doing fine but wasn't keeping up with the new engine set up ( shifting alil late at wot). So I decided to pull her out and do a shift kit and put in new racing clutches in her. Now I know this is strange but when I took the valve body out and saw the tube running across the valve body I thought nothing of it but after doing alil research and reading on the valve body from My 727 rebuild book I saw that I had a lockup valve body. Now I'm sure (positive) that the transmission is a non lockup 727 from the shaft at the front of the trans being groved all the way to the end (the a518 being the lockup trans having at the end a smooth .

My trans was fine and didn't have any problem except the slow shifts at wot . At low speeds shifts are nice and smooth.

How does this work?

Should I keep this valve body on or get the non lockup?

thanks ahead of time guys.

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Old 02-23-2014, 08:27 AM
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As a side note, one of my Imperials has a lockup transmision. When I had it rebuilt, it had slow shift from 2 to 3. I had a shift kit on it, and now reverse engages slowly, but I can live with it. The transmission has survived my hard driving (this is a strong 440), but I am usually careful to back off when shifting.

On a side note, what did you do to that engine? What rpm is your peak power and torque, and how streetable is it?

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i am NOT a trans expert. but with a modded valve body the band adjustment is more important. the few shift kits i have done had the bands set different than stock. i think mostly the band adjustment is closer than stock. here is something i came across. an EXTERNAL filter.
man o man i about forgot yes its a cut & past sorry. __________________
after you clean the trans. add this to your*chrysler*trans. an external fluid filter
1. go to auto-zone. get 2210, its called a power steering filter, but it is for transs to. it is for 3/8 tubing. by (magna-fine) be sure to use high pressure hose. Reff:http://www.magnafilter.com
2. for other sizes wix 58964 5/16 tube size
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Old 02-24-2014, 08:02 AM
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I would bet you do not have the throttle kick down adjusted properly
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Old 03-02-2014, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by demetri
As a side note, one of my Imperials has a lockup transmision. When I had it rebuilt, it had slow shift from 2 to 3. I had a shift kit on it, and now reverse engages slowly, but I can live with it. The transmission has survived my hard driving (this is a strong 440), but I am usually careful to back off when shifting.

On a side note, what did you do to that engine? What rpm is your peak power and torque, and how streetable is it?

Thanks.
Engine is 30 over with j heads with some port and polish work. Has 10.5 compression , holley street dominator intake, holley 750, comp cam xe274, hooked competition headers. It's nice and is driven on the street . Has power brakes and all ,and will light up tires quick even with the 2.94 gear I have in it . Here's a video
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Originally Posted by TVLynn
I would bet you do not have the throttle kick down adjusted properly
Had it right just wasn't doing what u need it to do. Got the trans back in with the rebuild and is doing wonderful nice firm fast shifts. Thanks for the input
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Originally Posted by moe7404
i am NOT a trans expert. but with a modded valve body the band adjustment is more important. the few shift kits i have done had the bands set different than stock. i think mostly the band adjustment is closer than stock. here is something i came across. an EXTERNAL filter.
man o man i about forgot yes its a cut & past sorry. __________________
after you clean the trans. add this to your*chrysler*trans. an external fluid filter
1. go to auto-zone. get 2210, its called a power steering filter, but it is for transs to. it is for 3/8 tubing. by (magna-fine) be sure to use high pressure hose. Reff:http://www.magnafilter.com
2. for other sizes wix 58964 5/16 tube size
Thanks for the input trans back in and is doing great
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Thanks for the help trans is back in and doing great love the valve body mods . Nice quick firm shifts
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