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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Not much of an update BUUUUTTTTT Going to be ordering a few sublte things for the Charger this week. I........am..........juiced.

  • 440 source STEALTH HEADS!
  • COMP CAMS-440 Source .500 lift cam kit
  • 440 source Pro Billet distributor
  • MSD Blaster Coil
  • 440 source Aluminum valve covers
  • 440 source power steering assembly
  • MSD timing tape
  • RPM manifold
  • Associated gaskets and etc
  • ART CARR- 10pt rollcage
  • Strange engineering D-60 with True-trac worm type posi at 3.73 gear- and strange Drive Shaft yolk
My brother will be coming in on this end of the build. He'll be here for about 10 days. And in 10 days. . . allll this will be applied to the Charger. We kind of set up a challenge for ourselves. Should be fun. haha. Let the good times roll!!!





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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:14 AM
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Nice list buddy, post pics.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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did you figure out what your compression will be with the stealth heads?
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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With the 440 source heads it should be at 9:1.
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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wont that be a little low
because you lose about 1 compression because of the aluminum?
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Not according to my numbers. It should be 9:1. Could be wrong though. Oh well. . .we'll see.

The roll cage came today!!!! Sweet!! Just waiting on my tube notcher and angle finder to come with a few other tools to add to the collection before i can dive in to this item on the list. More still on the way.

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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the compression will be 9 to 1, but with the aluminum heads, it will act like 8 to 1
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Taking a little break after dinner to post.

So its almost the end of day 2 of a 9 day build with my brother. Hes back in the states and were pushing to get a lot done. Taking a little vacation so to speak. The power add-ons will have to wait till December. Instead we've opted to tackle the roll cage, bodywork and paint, power steering and interior during the push.

Yesterday we finished and installed the new power steering unit, cut the hood to fit the Mr Gasket scoop which looks SICK now with the scoop peakin out, and started stripping the paint from the body with Aircraft remover.

Today i started on the cage while my brother worked on the body/paint. Got the main hoop tacked and plates welded in. Replaced a section of the floor pan on the drivers side. After we go back out to the garage we'll finish up on the rear of the car, start notching the corresponding tubes for the rear of the cage and tighten up little odds n ends.
Parts keep trickling in and so far the project is going somewhat accordingly. If the car is a solid color by the end of the week and is caged. . .i'll be a happy man. And with that, im heading back out.

Pics to come later tonight
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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-Lunch break post -

Pics from monday and tues

















Some inspiration we keep close by. . .




One of the 3 elements that makes the caging of the Charger all possible for a DIY'er like myself.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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nice work
hows the frame on the car?
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 04:11 AM
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Priming tomorrow. More caging. Shaving corner lights. Exhausted . . .i'll let the pictures do the talking











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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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67 GTX-The frame on the car is great. Aside from the usual rusty areas like the lower part of both the windshield and rear glass, its in great shape. We got lucky.

So its sunday afternoon and we have 2 more days of camp mopar. I must say that SEM rust-arrestor rocks. It looks great, dries quick and is really durable-awesome stuff.
The car is looking really good. The corner lights, fender mounted turn signals, antena and emblems are shaved. All rust was cut out, cleaned up, SEM'd and replaced with new metal. Both the windshield and rear glass have been removed. The roll cage will be getting the 2 rear bars today. Im so exhausted i cant really think of everything that has been going on. But i have love every minute of it thats for damn sure. And now for the pics. . .













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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 03:18 AM
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Awesome man, just awesome. Thx for posting the pics all the way through this build. Keep up the good work man, you'll have a kick *** ride when your done.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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Awesome man, just awesome. Thx for posting the pics all the way through this build. Keep up the good work man, you'll have a kick *** ride when your done.
X2. it is really looking good.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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3x on that
what color will you paint it?
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Thanks guys. Im glad you folks are enjoying the thread. Ive watched so many build threads but a lack of pics always leaves ya wondering. I'm a visual kinda guy. I love pics. And now for more. . .

As camp Mopar comes to a close were left with this. . .

1st coat-


My gun and compressor were giving me hell so the 1st coat is not as uniform as it should be. Good thing its a 1st coat. . .lol. You can really see it on the hood. .

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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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Had to throw the scoop on and take the tape off. . . i just had to. Not planning on more paint until later this week anyways.

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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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looks good man
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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This is an awesome thread. I am very glad that you are posting pics. I too am a visual man so it is great that you are posting them. The car looks f--ing great. I am impressed that you are doing it all on your own.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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Hey man, very cool car project, I have a question for you. I have the same car, same motor, same colors, same interior, same year! I love it. I just saw the wheels on it and really like. How did you get the stripes off of the rims?

Thanks
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Not to hard to destripe the wheels. Just need to get the paint matched and use a detail brush to delete them so-to-speak. Cheap and quick.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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Its just about one year to the day that this project officially started and yet again its time for a push in the build. This time its all about the power. Not too bad for a project spread out over a few week-long builds throughout the year . .

This coming January will be fun. The D60 will be here, the 440 and tranny will get some love and the cage will be finished.

quick item list:
Strange engineering D60 w/Worm posi
440 Source Stealth aluminum heads
Comp cam
cam bearings
new lifters
timing chain
cam hardware
push rods
rings
MSD Distributor
blaster coil
ARP hardware
2800rpm high trq converter
bunch of tools to do the job right . . .

Should be a 9-10 day build. The charger gets the 440 and 727 yanked, pushed out for the garage to transition in to the motor build and all while the cage gets finished.

Other than that its just a normal winter holiday season around these parts. Cold air, warm sun and short days with a lot of family time.

Happy holidays!
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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good luck with the build
keep us posted with pics
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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have u ever raced the charger and the nova?
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 01:18 AM
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The Charger has yet to see any track time but most definitely will in the near future. The Nova did once upon a time but the 350 was removed, sold and used the money to pick up a straight six, repaint it and give it as a grad gift to my younger sister. She drove it all of once before it saw its resting current place in the garage. So its just sitting, waiting for another V8. Next on the chopping block i suppose.

The one that spent the most time at the 1/4 track was our 68 MalibuSS clone. I'll never really forgive my pops for selling that car(long story). It was a beast. Memories. I need to locate a scanner so i can create some digital copies of photos i have. Man i miss that thing.

pics of the nova fresh out of the spray booth. some of the only digi pics of this i can find




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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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I have to admit, I kinda like that car lol. My dad used to have a 67 chevy 2 nova ss and two 63 chevy 2's.
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 06:14 PM
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HEY APOLLO GREAT POST AND PHOTOS!
I just found a good running 440 with a 727 trans for chump change today.
and i want to do install it in my 72 charger but i am keeping it basicly stock.
what changes absolutely had to be made for the car to take the 440 and extra weight?

from reading this post these are the things i assume i have to change-
drive shaft
rear end
radiator
motor mounts
trans mount

and did you have to replace or adjust-
front coil springs
shocks
torsion bars
shifter linkage
or ?????

THANKS FOR ANY HELP.
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by THE GOOSE
HEY APOLLO GREAT POST AND PHOTOS!
I just found a good running 440 with a 727 trans for chump change today.
and i want to do install it in my 72 charger but i am keeping it basicly stock.
what changes absolutely had to be made for the car to take the 440 and extra weight?

from reading this post these are the things i assume i have to change-
drive shaft
rear end
radiator
motor mounts
trans mount

and did you have to replace or adjust-
front coil springs
shocks
torsion bars
shifter linkage
or ?????

THANKS FOR ANY HELP.
GOOSE
Thanks!
Nothing is really needed except a few things but i went the extra mile and built up, reinforced and modified a bunch a stuff while i had the car under the knife. If the car had a frame to take off it would have been done ( frame-off resto) but it doesnt and im just as happy doin it the way i have... Im actually doing another build push as we speak but im leaving the pictorial update for next week when i have all the pictures upload and write up done. Stay tuned!

Quick answer to get in and drive away-

Shifter or modified slapstick
driveshaft
radiator
motor mounts
tranny mount.

Mopar was smart and everything swaps over on the B-bodies pretty easily and without modification. Good luck and write up a thread on your build!!

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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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THANKS FOR THE HELP!
Im planning on starting my build in about a year. so i can strip the car down and paint it and swap the motor at the same time. and hopfully by then have all the extra parts needed by then. but when i do it all i am going to photo it all and post it like you did.

THANKS AGAIN! AND GOOD LUCK WITH THE REST OF YOUR BUILD!

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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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So here we are again, another camp mopar at a close. This time around was a little less productive due to the new 9-5er but we still accomplished some crucial goals while my brother was in the states.
Roll cage is fully welded and finished, brakes are rebuilt, undercarriage is fully re-coated with 3M Shutz, drive shaft safety loop installed and a few other things i cant remember. Just trying to focus on tuning the engine for the coming months. We want to drive it around in the final stages of completion. Just too damn tempting. So the door bars wont be installed until the 540 stroker goes in next year, the car will still retain most of its weight and it will be family driven for the most part . .













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