Newbie searching for help
03-23-2013 | 11:08 AM
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Newbie searching for help
Hello to all;
Just joined and in need of help. I'm looking to purchase a 1967 GTX and have a bunch of questions?
Car seems to be solid but the engine is apart and not all complete. How much should a person pay for a Hemi car that is numbers matching? Are rear quarter panels available for it? What are the best thing to look for in the engine to make sure it is rebuildable? How available are restoration parts?
Thanks in advance
Just joined and in need of help. I'm looking to purchase a 1967 GTX and have a bunch of questions?
Car seems to be solid but the engine is apart and not all complete. How much should a person pay for a Hemi car that is numbers matching? Are rear quarter panels available for it? What are the best thing to look for in the engine to make sure it is rebuildable? How available are restoration parts?
Thanks in advance
03-23-2013 | 04:12 PM
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You Need to decode the VIN #s make sure it is a real hemi car Most GTX's came with the 440.. AMD metals should have the sheet metal parts. They did not put the vehicle VIN #s on the engine until 68 So you have to go by the date code of mfg
03-23-2013 | 06:21 PM
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As Tvlynn said check the vin # and make sure it s a real hemi car. Hemi cars are extremely rare and hard to come by. Never take anyones word for it on anything when it comes to this stuff. I was just looking on ebay under completed listings at a 68 coronet. Said he didn't know if it was a super bee or not but it is for sure the matching numbers 440 to the car. I took one look at the vin and saw it was a 318 car when it came out.
Another thing if you don't know what your looking at on that motor. Grab some numbers off of it and make sure its an actual 426 hemi and not just a 354 or 392 or something the guy is trying to pass off as a 426. If it's an actual 426 hemi and an old original one that has been pulled out of a car, the complete motor alone in pieces would grab $10,000 easy on ebay.
Not sure what a REAL Hemi GTX would be worth. And it does depend on the amount of rust. And it does depend if that hemi is the matching one for the car. I would say if its a real hemi gtx with a none matching numbers motor you would be safe giving $25,000 to $30,000.00 for it. But again and this can't be stressed enough DO YOUR HOMEWORK and learn the engine codes and where they are at in the VIN. Also make sure its a real GTX why your at it and not a satellite the guy is trying to pass as a GTX. The bottom line is Hemi cars are BIG money. Any real hemi car restored with the matching numbers hemi or with a repro 426 will bring $100,000 at auction or more. So it's really important to be very sure if its a real one or not. Especially if your paying a hemi car price for it. The difference between a hemi car and a regular GTX is like the difference between a bag of diamonds and bag of gold.. both are worth money but we both know the diamonds are worth far more than the gold.
If the second letter of the VIN IS NOT S then its not a GTX and you can pretty well guarantee yourself that its not a hemi car either. There were only 733 67 Hemi GTX's made. The 2nd letter of the vin is the price class. And S stands for special. And special means GTX on a plymouth b body or R/T if your looking at a dodge anything.
If your unsure of how to know if its hemi gtx. Just call the guy get the VIN from him and hop on here and post it up. You'll get a response on what the vin decodes to really quick.
On a 440 or 383 you can look at the front of the block and see there is a pad just in front of the intake closer to the drivers side of the motor, it will say how many cubic inches the motor is. (i'm sure a 426 hemi is the same way) But even if it says 426.. chrysler also made a 426 wedge which is not a Hemi. So if you don't know the difference between a hemi and a regular big block thats something you should look into as well.
Hope this helps and good luck on your buy!
Another thing if you don't know what your looking at on that motor. Grab some numbers off of it and make sure its an actual 426 hemi and not just a 354 or 392 or something the guy is trying to pass off as a 426. If it's an actual 426 hemi and an old original one that has been pulled out of a car, the complete motor alone in pieces would grab $10,000 easy on ebay.
Not sure what a REAL Hemi GTX would be worth. And it does depend on the amount of rust. And it does depend if that hemi is the matching one for the car. I would say if its a real hemi gtx with a none matching numbers motor you would be safe giving $25,000 to $30,000.00 for it. But again and this can't be stressed enough DO YOUR HOMEWORK and learn the engine codes and where they are at in the VIN. Also make sure its a real GTX why your at it and not a satellite the guy is trying to pass as a GTX. The bottom line is Hemi cars are BIG money. Any real hemi car restored with the matching numbers hemi or with a repro 426 will bring $100,000 at auction or more. So it's really important to be very sure if its a real one or not. Especially if your paying a hemi car price for it. The difference between a hemi car and a regular GTX is like the difference between a bag of diamonds and bag of gold.. both are worth money but we both know the diamonds are worth far more than the gold.
If the second letter of the VIN IS NOT S then its not a GTX and you can pretty well guarantee yourself that its not a hemi car either. There were only 733 67 Hemi GTX's made. The 2nd letter of the vin is the price class. And S stands for special. And special means GTX on a plymouth b body or R/T if your looking at a dodge anything.
If your unsure of how to know if its hemi gtx. Just call the guy get the VIN from him and hop on here and post it up. You'll get a response on what the vin decodes to really quick.
On a 440 or 383 you can look at the front of the block and see there is a pad just in front of the intake closer to the drivers side of the motor, it will say how many cubic inches the motor is. (i'm sure a 426 hemi is the same way) But even if it says 426.. chrysler also made a 426 wedge which is not a Hemi. So if you don't know the difference between a hemi and a regular big block thats something you should look into as well.
Hope this helps and good luck on your buy!
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03-26-2013 | 08:33 AM
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Also be sure the check the frame. Most sheetmetal can be dealt with but a bad or bent unibody brings another level of pain. For a true hemi car, that extra pain may be worth it. For a car of that potential pedigree it would pay to see the car in person first, IMHO. Would be a very cool car, with or without a hemi....as others have said just be sure to only pay for what you are getting.
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