alright thanks.

i bought a lot of black silicone, and im going to try to make weatherstripping for in-between the windows. ill take pictures after of how it comes out.

i think what im going to do is get some rear diff. oil or something (maybe try Pam if im lazy) on one window where the weather stripping meets. then roll both windows up and then fill in the hole. then when its dry, hopefully when i roll one down the silicone will just come right off the other side.

 

Theres a rod that holds the fuel pump in place inside the block. turn the engine over until that rod slides up as high as it'll go.

Then put the fuel pump in.

 

yes if it was a big block but he has a small block so there is no rod,

 

Hmm. Didn't know small blocks were diff

 

yeah they are BB have a short pump arm that uses a rod. wile the SB fuel pump has a long arm that goes to the eccentric its just a round cup that has a offset bolt hole that bolts on the end of the cam,

 

oh, that's what that's for? i thought that was to balance the cam or something, i had no clue. that pretty cool.

i got the fuel pump and the water pump hooked up, all that's left is a pulley, fan, and get the power steering pump and alternator where they go. then just get that wrench out of the oil pan, and see if she runs.

 

Just use masking tape, a lot less mess to clean up. Gear oil is a pain to clean, I remember spilling a good amount onto my head one time when I popped an 8 3/4 pumpkin loose on one of my old Challengers. My head smelled like gear oil even after washing my hair several times.

 

well, everything is back on, now all there is to do is get that fricking wrench out of the oil pan!

i jacked the front end up and looked underneath. couple things. 1) there are a hell of a lot of bolts holding the pan on. 2) can i even get the pan out with all the stuff in way? i think it is the front sway bar that is in the way. if i take it off can i just put it right back on after or do i have to align stuff afterward or something.

 

Pan HAS to come off either way..


Just pull it off. Its like 14 7/16th maybe 9/16th bolts. Easy. Might need to pull some stuff, maybe undo a motor mount and jack the engine up a bit

 

You'll need to remove the steering drag link which passes under the oil pan. you don't have to remove it entirely, just remove the cotter pins and the nuts which fix it to the pitman arm and idler arm, and the link should drop down low enough to get the pan off. You might need a puller (or at least a tie rod separating fork) to get the link popped loose.

 

ok might have a problem.

i drained the oil out, and there was a little anti freeze in the bottom. i know that's bad bad. but i also have little chunks in the oil. i cant really tell what they are (or were) since they're saturated oil.

also i got little pieces of teal paint in the oil. probably from the timing chain cover. it was painted teal and it was really flaky when i took it off.

 

uh oh, $$$ time

 

what im going to try to do is just get the car running. then once it can move, im going to drive it to my school. i have auto now, and the teacher said as long as i work on the car it can stay there. is there any way once i get it there that i could check what caused the antifreeze to get in the oil? like put air in a cylinder and see if it leaks air or something? im definatly going to do a vacuum test first thing once its there.

 

you could take the thermostat out (put the hose back on fill it up) turn it over by hand, and watch to see if it perkulates thru the top of the radiator, that could tell if its in a cylinder or head, im thinking it the timming cover,
if you do the air thing you dont want over 20lbs of air going thru the radiator could cause it to leak,

 

wait, when i took off the timing chain cover, coolant went everywhere (i think) maybe most of that was from that.

 

your probly right, change ur oil. and run in you mite have to change it another time after that?

 

im not sure, your being sarcastic?

is there any way if i put all the fluids in this thing it could run with that wrench in the oil pan? i keep on trying, but my garage is very very small and it is even smaller under this car. i can not get anything off of this thing. all the bolts are tight as hell and i cant get leverage to even loosen them. plus everytime the car shakes at all i get a skittle sized chunks of gunk in my eyes.

even if i could get the car on ramps in my driveway that would make it easier. isn't the oil filter there to stop things in the oil from getting in the engine. not saying i should drive around with it in there, but it be to risky to even try to move it forward into the driveway?

my friend who lives a mile down the road has a lift i could use. but i wouldn't even take the chance of driving that far. wish i had a flatbed.

 

dude, get some jack stands and a floor jack from harbor freight. use a bar on the end of a wrench for leverage, lots of WD 40 and get some cheap clear glasses.

 

i have jack stands under it, as high as my jack could go. it just sucks working in there. there is about 1 foot of space on both sides of the car. and oil got spilled all under the car from when i got oil in my eye and a decent amount drained right on the floor. so now i have soppy garage floor to work on.

it just sucks. i know im probably just going to have to deal with it and get it over with. i just keep on getting pissed every time i have to go to the bathroom to flush out my eye.

 

[quote=64polara;54734]im not sure, your being sarcastic?
. isn't the oil filter there to stop things in the oil from getting in the engine. not saying i should drive around with it in there, but it be to risky to even try to move it forward into the driveway,quote]

no im not beingg sarcastic, it may take an oil change or 2 to get that antifreeze all out of the system, the oil filter just filters the oil, theres a oil pickup tube that comes from the oil pump to the lower part of the oilpan that sucks up the oil. it has a screen on it there now way a wrench could go thur the oil system, the worse thing that could happen is if the wrench isnt sitting on the bottom sump of the pan the crank could pick it up and cause severe damage, if you have to move it heres what i would do, use a large magnet run it down the oil pan to try to move the wrench to the lowest part of the oil pan, or is it allready? then take the magnet circle the bottom of the sump so you can "bite on to the wrench" with the magent, leave the magnet on the pan to hold the wernch in place, wile you drive to your buddys house slowly, only do this if you are sure the wrench is in the lowest part of the pan.

 

[quote=1966sportfury;54748]that is a really good idea. ill try to get the wrench on the bottom tomorrow. i still wont drive it to my friends, but at least to get it out of the garage.

i didn't even think of the crank. stupid me, i can only imagine how much more stuff would be broke if not for this forum. thanks so much.

 

today while under the car i thought i might as well try that magnet to see if i could find where the wrench was in the pan. i laying there sliding that magnet all over that oil pan for a good 10 minutes and couldn't hear a thing.

then right when im about to slide out and tinker with something else, i see a wrench hanging off the top of the cross member. i grab it and of course, it is a 13mm.

now the problem is, did that damn wrench fall in there or not? my brother was standing there when i thought the wrench went in the pan. he said he thought it fell on the floor, and i didn't find it there, so i assumed it fell in the pan. not sure what to do now. i know paint chips fell in the pan because i found those when i drained the oil, so the pan really should still come off right? but if its just paint chips then would it be safe to bring it to my friends house? im going to get on of those flex-able grabber and see if i can feel the wrench in the pan.

 

If it fell into the pan, its probably on top of the baffle..

 

did not know there was a baffle. i don't see one in this pic. i could feel to where it dipped down (on the right side).

 

Is that the pan off your motor in that car?

Sometimes the baffle gets stuck to the engine and doesn't come off with the pan.

Maybe the earlier cars didn't come with a baffle..

 

Take the plugs out and spin the motor by hand. If the wrench is in the pan and obstructing the crank you will feel and/or hear it. Was the wrench you thought you dropped in the pan a 13mm?

 

My '65 383 doesn't have a baffle and i'm fairly certain when I tore it down it was the first time it had been apart since it left the factory.

 

Damn you 66! Musta read my mind! I too would have tried to fish the wrench to the lowest part, and then just epoxy a magnet to the outside. More "Red-neck-tech".

 

no that isn't my pan. i just looked up 318 oil pan on google.



ya, the wrench that i thought fell in was was a 13mm. it just sucks i don't know how many 13's i had before.

 

you know i dont remember ever seeing a baffle in a 318,
the ones ive seen on BB were tacked to the pan