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Old 04-04-2010 | 04:56 PM
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differential, rear end, chunk, pumpkin questions

I currently have an 8 3/4 3:91 sure grip in a 741 case. This is too tall a gear for hiway driving and I don't want to go for an OD setup. Also, I am running a 440, and I have read that the 741 cases are more for small block cars. My questions are:

Is there a table that will tell you how many RPM you will drop per rear gear ratio? Like if I go from 3:91 to 3:73, at 70 miles per hour, how many RPM would I drop? 200 maybe? If I go from 3:91 to 3:55, 250 - 400 rpm maybe? I have an A-833 4 speed, not sure of 4th gear ratio, but I think 1 to 1?

Also, I am sure I would need to know how many splines on my axels and pinion before I order one right? Also, how do I tell if the yoke I have is standard or the large yoke?

Any tips or tricks for the installation? Any gotchas I need to watch out for? Common mistakes?

Here is the item number on ebay that I am looking at 380126195207. This is a 3:55 in a 742 case. Anyone used this guy? He has 100% positive feedback.

Does anyone on the forum rebuild these? I looked at parts to do the rebuild, about $400 for bearings and gears, not including the posi unit itself, not sure on labor, but probably close to the same or more. It just seems like a better deal to buy one done with a warranty than to build one. I have a 742 case, and I think the ebay guy said he would give $200 credit for it. Plus his stuff is buy it now or best offer. I saw him accept a bid for $980 for a 3:73 in a 742 case, all new components. If I got that deal and $200 for my case, that would be $780, I don't know how I could lose?

I also saw this on Craigslist: *3.55/742 CASE POSI, USED, CLUTCH TYPE, EXCELLENT CONDITION, NO ISSUES,INSPECTED, $675

The website for this one is http://www.rumblefishltd.net/ Anyone ever used this guy? For just a hundred more, I could have a new one and be rid of my extra case.

Ideas? Suggestions???

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Old 04-05-2010 | 12:03 AM
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try this http://www.csgnetwork.com/multirpmcalc.html (round up the last 2 numbers) hope this will work for you? and for the site i only ask for the 391 complete with pumkin!! j/k

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Old 04-05-2010 | 07:29 AM
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For a little more fun try this one:
http://vexer.com/automotive-tools/speed-rpm-calculator

I have seen another one similar (from memory it was a bit better) but couldn't find while at work.
Old 04-05-2010 | 08:14 AM
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Hey guys, thanks a bunch for the RPM calculator sites. That gives me a good idea of where to go. With my current 3:91 at 70mph, the calculator shows 3406. If I go to 3:55, it shows 3092 which is 314 rpm less. It does not seem like much, but anything is better than nothing. As for the 3:91 in the 741 case, I would be happy to give it to someone that could use it once I change it out It works fine, but it does have a howl in it. I am not sure why it is howling, but since it is in a 741 case, I am not interested in finding out, I would rather just get the ratio I want in a 742 case since I have a big block.

Any other info on doing the swap? What do you think about the price?
Old 04-06-2010 | 08:20 PM
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Bumping for more help.... I have swapped 3rd members before, just wondering if there is anything Mopar specific I need to know about. The calculators the guys provided helped me decide on a 3:55 ratio. Now I am figuring out if I should build or buy one already done. Any help would be appreciated regarding the removal and replacement of the 3rd member.
Old 04-06-2010 | 11:59 PM
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have you rebuilt one before?
Old 04-07-2010 | 09:43 AM
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I have nor built a rear end before, but I have swapped a couple out. I have a Mopar guy near by who is willing to build the rear end, but when I look at the cost of parts, I don't see how building one can be cheaper than buying one already done with a warranty. I have looked around a lot, but a 3:55 in a 742 case is hard to find. The best one I found for price is $675 which is a used one, but "checked" out of New York. For not that much more, I can get an all new unit for $980 and a $200 core for my 742 case which is $780 out of my pocket. I will keep looking and post some "Wanted" ads.

On the installation of the rear end....any surprises? I hear from someone that there is some spring inside that I need to watch for, true???
Old 04-07-2010 | 01:12 PM
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no nothing to worry about. its a straight forward job. no surprises. never seen any springs.. accept IN the pumkin assembly
Old 04-07-2010 | 02:56 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. That makes me feel more confident doing the switch. I'll let you all know how it goes.....probably down the road a month or two.....or sooner if the 741 case that howls fails me.
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