A/C R-12 and R-134a

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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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A/C R-12 and R-134a

Has anyone ever bought the conversion kits and just put the fittings on then dumped r134 into a r12 system?
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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The kit instructions say you can do that, but the reality is there is no "drop in" replacement for R-12. You should do a complete retrofit.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 12:33 AM
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hey, over on country club and broadway just north of space age is allies refrigeration, those guys are one of the best ac shops in town. they really know their stuff and wont steer you wrong
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by johnthegoalie
hey, over on country club and broadway just north of space age is allies refrigeration, those guys are one of the best ac shops in town. they really know their stuff and wont steer you wrong
Do you know how much they charge I know r12 is expensive? I just put the R134a fittings on and was going to buy that 134a sealant and dye all in one bottle at like Walmart just to see if it is leaking and if my compressor even works anymore.

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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by johnthegoalie
hey, over on country club and broadway just north of space age is allies refrigeration, those guys are one of the best ac shops in town. they really know their stuff and wont steer you wrong
So I just stopped at that shop and asked how much they told me, 40 to diagnose, 230 just for freon, 850 if the compressor is bad plus some other amount for a TUBE? to go with the compressor then 80 for labor so WOW i quite listening to be honest aft he told me how much for the compressor. Oh it is 450 to convert it to 134a, then i would have to buy a new condensor just to get it to blow cold so on the dang A/C I wish i could take it back to the body shop and tell them to fix it. I think three years is to long for that though.

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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Daaaang 850? sheeze I'm in the wrong business...I am no expert by any means on a/c but I have done what you were asking about doing in the past....change fittings, and blow in the 134a, but also put in the 134a conversion ail.... It would be best to test for leaks, if you have access to a vacuum pump that would be better plus you can tell if its gonna leak. Thats my .02cents worth...
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 03:43 AM
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I've done it on my 92 Dakota. It was easy and all I had to buy was one part.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Ok good to know I will look into that. I think I have found the leak, I believe it is on the high side hose just need to pin point where. Thanks everyone for the 411!
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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I've done it on several cars. Best thing is to make sure the system is empty, then Harbor Freight has a vacuum pump for like $20, air operated. Pump the system down, and if you have no leaks, charge it back up with the 134, and you should be good to go.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckNeccid
I've done it on several cars. Best thing is to make sure the system is empty, then Harbor Freight has a vacuum pump for like $20, air operated. Pump the system down, and if you have no leaks, charge it back up with the 134, and you should be good to go.
do you need a pretty good compressor for the air supply?
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