fsrwc5

I have a 1971 dodge charger with a 440. Right now the transmission in it is a manual transmission that needs to be replaced. I am working on restoring the car, so I've decided to put a 727 automatic in it, because thats what the car started with. I can get a 727 automatic transmission from a dodge 1 ton van. If i get the transmission from the van will i be able to use it on my charger?

fsrwc5

the van is from 1987

Doc

Since they stopped building B engines in 78 .. you will need a 1978 and earlier tranny.

fsrwc5

that is good to know. thank you.

Doc

Some of the guts of a 87 trans might be usable in a 78 and earlier trans. Where are you located?

fsrwc5

I'm located in alaska. The transmission from the van is $600, and it works so i'm not looking to buy it and tear it apart, unless it would be something that would be pretty effective. I understand it may be difficult, but time is something i have the luxury of having. I want this transmission to work well for a long time. I was mostly curious if these transmissions were interchangable, are there different model numbers?

Doc

600$ for a stocker-transmission is UNsane. I am selling myself a HP trans for a B-engine that has a manual shift valve body AND a high-stall converter for 550$. I am talking to a guy HERE on this group right now ... he has the first "rights" to it.

Do you have any older junkyards around in your area?

fsrwc5

We have some junkyards here, probably less than 3 in the area.

Doc

Call around to them .... and maybe check a trans shop or two for a core transmission.

fsrwc5

Do you know any other vehicles that use the 727-B transmission? also are there other transmissions that could be built to work with my engine. I kind of like the idea of learning to rebuild the transmission. It would make it a little easier in narrowing down my search.

Doc

1967 through 1972 are the best years ... but through 78 is OK. It has to be from a car that had a 361-440 engine.

Rebuilding a trans? ... you will either have to MAKE or buy some specialty tools to do that ...PLUS have the knowledge.

fsrwc5

I'm in no rush to put the transmission together, and I'm a pretty good learner. So I plan to just take my time and try to do it right. Doesn't matter if it takes 10 years to do it.

Doc

Grab a service manual and with your time-frame .. you should be OK. You should be a ble to pick up a CORE trans from a junkyard for 10-50$.

fsrwc5

what do you mean when you say core trans. ?

Doc

Some JY's require a "core" when you buy something from them .. be it a trans or engine or whatever. This is what is brought to the JY ... so it is for-sure a negative function piece. Bt it CAN be an EZ fix.

fsrwc5

I see. Thanks for the info Doc. I'll keep my eyes open.

Doc

Another note on these "cores". A Bud of mine bought a core some years back that was full of burnt fluid ... and the filter had been plugged. This trans that he needed was for a daily driver and I told him just to change the filter ...and run two changes of ATF through it.

With a little line-pressure adjustment ... that thing shifted almost like a HP trans !

fsrwc5

Ok, so with a little bit of work yesterday, I managed to find an old 70 something (I'll know more at the end of today) Chrysler. It has a 318 with a 727. I know that the 318 is the comes with the 727 A transmission whereas I need the B transmission, however he'll give me the whole car for $50. Apparantly is was a good car too it was heavily vandilized though and has just been sitting, the engine and transmission don't have too many miles on them. If i were to take the transmission to someone who rebuilds them, is it possible to modify the A transmission enough so that it will fit and work with my 440? I figured I could at least get the car, take the parts that are good and sell or swap for the parts I need.

Doc

First ...what is the year ?

And ANYTHING can be adapted ... but the cost here would be tremendous.

fsrwc5

Yesterday I took a transmission from a 1967 Chrysler Town and Country with a 360. It is an A-727 B, so it will fit my 440. My next questions are about the slapstick. First of all where can i find more information about this feature. I understand that the slapstick allowed the automatic transmission to shift manually, could you also put the car in drive like a typical automatic transmission today? I do not believe my transmission had the slapstick feature, can any TorqueFlite be made in to a slapstick relatively inexpensively?

Doc

A 1967 360 ? ... no such animal !!

fsrwc5

I don't think it was 383, but it was a big block V-8. with a 727 B transmission

fsrwc5

maybe it was a replacement engine. The transmission will work. I'm more interested in the slapstick info.

Doc

The engine ... is the distributor located in the front or rear?

fsrwc5

if you are standing in front of the car the distributor is on the left hand side on the front of the engine, tilted at a 45 degree angle.

Doc

You have a B or RB engine then. A 67 T&C wagon ? .. it should be a 440.

The slap-stick? ...call Year One. You can bend-their-ear on that info. They also sell those too. But they are quite pricey.