i think if both parties could sit down and actually put a budget together that doesn't include special intrest groups and cut back on spending and take a pay cut for them selves. then maybe we could get back on track. like that could ever happen.

 

Both parties are sock puppets of the fed/ rothchilds/rockefellers big money buys them for big money profit the voting record for the last 60+ plus years proves it!
The constitution of the United States Of American!! lays out very detailed guide lines one of which is the county will print its own money for commerce within the boarders tax free!!!!
Taxes on "borrowed money borrowed from a private entity owned by rothchilds a private bank telling us what to do what to pay what what what what!!!!
EXAMPLE..........
i take away your counties private tax free currency printed by your own country to do commerce with the citizens with in the borders.
Your country has no curency now!
now the privately owned bank "federal reserve" owned and operated by rothchilds/rockefellers , and very few other's.. THEY print you a dollar but they are going to charge you interest on that dollar......
BUT WAIT......
You Don't Have Any Money Remember... I took that away from you!
Tell you what i'm going to do to help you with this I will print you another dollar so you can pay me the "Interest on the first dollar"TAXES"
what are we stupid!? They are laughing at us because the political reality show is rigged they got us fighting each other distracting us from them! The constitution I SAY AGAIN LAYS OUT VERY STRICT GUIDE LINES"!
the voting record of the government is there on record just look up who voted on what issue and his/her vote will prove there guilt! Traitors to the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!! Your freedoms!
Is not the oath they take to uphold and defend the Constitution from enemies within and without the county and not pass laws that take away and remove these freedoms?!
They are traitors too us "WE THE PEOPLE" they lied to get in and they lied when they are in.
Has anyone here at the forum ever wounder why the constitution is not a required learning in the government controlled screwll system?
Well if you don't know your GOD GIVEN RIGHTS you will never know when you loose them!
They the government is the blame for the state of the country and they try and blame us, when for years they have been attacking the constitution "your liberties" for decades and they put on a show to get us too side against each other i never voted for higher taxes more debt more invasion of sovereign counties.. of course study history and you will see who put all the leaders in the middle east in the 60's and 70s !
the only reason they invade these counties is because the federal reserve doesn't control their money and that's the truth every county that is declared a terrorist county does not belong to the fed or the imf GET IT, GET IT! and any american black ops can do terrorist attacks in our county!
black ops are black ops...
False flags are false flags all wars where started this way and look who makes the profits from wars ...................... the money trail leads us back too the above mentioned and not to say the least about the consolidation of power after a war.
i have no problems with my fellow Americans we all have the right to "LIFE LIBERTY AND HAPPINESS" GOD GIVEN RIGHT'S NOT GIVEN BY MAN OR GOVERNMENT
that's what i want for my family and for my fellow Americans we just want to live life free!
Thank you.

 

How can you say that You don,t know me and don,t care to so I think you are part of the problem with this country also.You know words and teasing don,t bother me it just shows how intelligent you are.

 

i see there's one thing we have in common we are unhappy with the way our elected's have run the country!
They always promise but in the end we all get the shaft!
Lets not fight among our self's we know we wanted good for our country when we voted but what they told us was a lie it's not our fault.
It's there fault!

 

Having lived in socialist Canada all my life I know how bad the liberal agenda is , there is no limit on spending & sending the bill to future generations , $$ spent in the late 60s that in no way benefitted me or my generation will not be paid back until I am in my 80s , 30 more years . Basically they take everything & give back to the people in need , so you better not be a 25-50 yo white male , there are no hand outs for you while every one else qualifies , if you have a kid , single parent old , sick , immigrant , can't speak english , below the poverty line disabled , unemployed , handicapped , veteran , don't feel like working , undereducated , you qualify for assistance !
If you think "free" medical is good it is , average taxation in canaduh is 52% , 1/3 pays for debt , 1/3 for free medical + you get to pay for the Gov to administrate all of the benefits so the gov keeps expanding at whos cost ? The health system is awesome , it does NOT cover any Vision Dental or Prescription costs , the way they control costs is simple .... limit access , over 40% of Canadian no longer have a family doc as there arn't any available ! In a city of over 1 million people we had 4 hospitals , now we have 3 , 1 was closed but not replaced ! Many people die waiting for treatment , this costs less then treating them , for example I needed to see a specialist about my knees , it took 11 months to see him for 3 mins & I got no help or advice from him . My mom had back issues & needed a MRI to find out what the problem was the waiting list for the MRI was 11.5 months so they wrote her a prescription for morphine to handle the excruciating pain for the 11 months wait , great lets make her a drug addict !! Ultimatly we had to force the system & take her to emergency , the first day we waited 18 hrs & we went home , the next time we went we waiting 16 hrs & went home , on day 3 she was seen after a 10 hr wait , she is 82 years old ! It is also illegal to go outside the system , there is no private heathcare if you just want to pay for it , the gov has made private health illegal . So we have to go outside the country if we want to speed up the system .
We have a very small military ....who would want to hurt us or take all the valuable resources ! Gun ownership is very restricted & a difficult process , they just blew billions trying to get everyone in canaduh to register any gun & rifle , the process was finally killed off by a logical gov .
I spent 30 years trying to move to the US , I was denied entry now I just feel sorry for anyone living there . I no longer live in canaduh either BTW , I refuse to pay a bill I never wanted so I left !

 

That's a great warning about the government healthcare. Send that to the president for me.

 

Will do !! Do you have his Email?
Many people ask if I am scared giving up my medical coverage by moving out of the country , I was more scared of staying in the country under the system , the system is broken !!

 

you know what america is like to the rest of the world
He's that guy that keeps coming into my bar and saying put it on my tab
well he never pays.
so i wont miss him and will always have paying customers.
60 trillion owed to the u.s. tax payer and 58 trillion owed to china and other counties for there product's
none of these countries will take fed reserve dollars anymore you'll see very shortly we will be in a third world war with nuc's
unless 12/21/2012 erases the black board and civilization has to start all over again.

 

i told you so. i told you so. i told you so. the amount of Incompetence in the government is underwhelming.

 

Glad you left Chryco Psycho. Taxes may be higher here in Canada but you won't go bankrupt if you get sick. As for it being illegal getting medical services outside the system, that's just not true. There are many private clinics in this country. One out here in BC does a roaring business on hip and knee surgeries. As for the "liberal" spending spree, it was a Liberal government that took drastic action back in the 90's and returned this country to budget surplus and started paying down the national debt. It is the current Conservative government that pissed away those surplusses prior to the meltdown of 08. As for not wanting to be a 25-30 year old white male...what kind of racist nonsense are you spouting? Hell, if I was that age again I would be headed to northern BC or Alberta. Tons of good paying jobs with plenty of benefits just waiting for the taking. Christ, even places like MacDonalds are having to offer upwards of $15 an hour and they still can't fill positions. You don't like the job you have, you quit and can have another the next day. Go west...and north young man.
As for not wanting to pay a bill you never wanted...well that goes with living in any country. It's the price of living in a civilized country. Not perfect, but pretty god damn good when you look around the world.
I have been reading the posts on this thread with interest but have refrained from commenting as the US is not my country. However, I will defend against anyone slagging my country.

Marty

 

I did that , 73 jobs , moved all over canada promises everywhere but nothing came true , layed off from 25 jobs in the early 80s while Trudeau & the NEP had Alberta on the skids . No matter how hard I worked I have yet to get a raise at any job ever , I always had to quit & leave to try to get a raise . Worked as a Locksmith foreclosing 4-5 houses / day but could not make enough money to take advantage of buying a house for $1 & taking over the payments !! Moved to Ontario with promises of making 2-3 times as much $$ which was true but the cost of living was 2-3X as high there with all the extra taxes . I tried for years to get through the apprenticeship system but there is no motivation for an employer to help , they have an empty bay sitting for 2 months while you are in school & they have to pay you more to do the same job so you never get signed up . Also tried for years to break into the oilpatch , I guess I don't know the right people , I did get a job with a camp company working 100+ hrs / week for 2k / month .
My personal experience with health care has been stupid , I know people who died waiting for surguries , My moms situation was horrible , I know they do not have private health in AB maybe they have some options in BC where you are . I will never go broke paying for health care here , a dental cleaning is $15 , filling is 25 , X rays and a cast for a broken leg is $120 , ypu get immediate care & the people actually care about you here not leave you sitting in emergency for days . The reason Coffee shops pay $15 / hr & cannot hire anyone is simple math , a single wide mobile home costs $500,000 + in Ft Mc , you cannot pay to live there on $15 / hr , it is all relative , I know people renting couches to sleep on for 1k / month up there !
I started my own business , had a business plan went to the business development bank to try to get help , wasted a lot of time got a lot of advice but no help the business went well had it making $$ inside 3 months paid all of the bills kept it going for a year , but there was no paycheck for me & I was working on call 24 hrs / day to try to keep it alive . Bought one house in my life worked 7 jobs over 3 years to pay the bills some times 2 jobs at a time had $20 / month left in my budget after the bills & still lost the house . I have lived on as little as $2 / day food budget not for a week but months at a time . I have also lived in conditons most people would never live in , bugs & roaches , dirt floor basements etc.
All I can say Marty is you experience with Canaduh has obviously been a totally different one from mine as I am not making this up & was going to die living on the streets as I could not make enough to pay my way no matter how hard I tried .

 

Hey Chryco,
Wow! I must say I do feel for you. Sounds like you have had a lot of hard luck.
By the way, I wasn't suggesting anybody could live on $15 an hour up there. Those are obviously jobs that are traditionally for entry level workers. My point about the north in BC and much of Alberta is that there are jobs going begging. I've watched dozens of young people from where I live leave here right out of high school, even some who didn't make it through high school and get good entry level jobs in all types of fields. From service companies to oil rigs. Those that took some time to get skills training or apprentice have landed even better paying jobs. Heck, if a guy, or gal, has a license for driving trucks they have their pick of jobs. There is a shortage in just about every field.
As for our health care system, I know it isn't perfect and there are definitely fixes that can be made. But I can honestly say I've never experienced anything like you. I know some of those problems do exist though.
Where do you live now? Maybe I was a little harsh in my opening comment, so I will wish you well where ever you are.

Marty

 

i will never slug a different county,
the people in charge are the problem, we hear in america are defiantly in the same boat as every one else we just have our different flavored ***** sticks
in america its all programming the masses into ignorance while the whole time the leaders are getting richer and gaining more control
hell they feed us poisoned food here then every bodies sick and health care doesn't cure you it just makes you dependent
ignorance is bliss, and as far as jobs go the real base to jobs is manufacturing and are stuff went over sea's do i blame them other countries,
no it's the bushiness man who wanted that extra buck at the cost of his own
china and other counties could have been assisted to grow there manufacturing base but not move companies for profit.
and the same time income taxes are the way to steel a man's labor before he receive's it and if taxes are to pay off the debit we'll the bull ***** pile's up hear so fast you have too be from a different level of consciousnesses too stay above it.
democracies are a farce.
a man's freedom is taken by them.

 

It is about perpective , obviously you have done well in Canada I like it there & I am nothing but glad for you .
As I said my personal experience has been nothing like yours , I got out of high school Just before Trudeau introduced the NEP , I got started on a career , all I ever wanted to be was a mechanic & after 25 or so jobs in the field I have as 1000s of hours of experience but I have yet to be signed onto the apprenticeship system . I have tutored mechanics through the system though . I was layed off every 2-3 months for years with the NEP , moved all over canada to keep food on the table , I have been in 5 different trades but only a became a journeyman as a locksmith .
I simply had no future in Canada , I have no pension , virtually no savings , been wiped out financially to almost zero 4 times & I fought my way back every time , I am not a welfare case all I needed was a few breaks or contacts to get me into a good job/ career . I have averaged minimum 70 hr work weeks since I left high school often 100+ hr weeks . I never expected a free ride in life just a helping hand . Good entry level jobs are not offered to 50+ year olds like they are to 20 yos .
I am not & have never looked for sympathy , I am looking for a solution , somewhere that hard work pays off & where I will not freeze to death on the streets .
I moved to Panama 2 years ago , life has NEVER been better , my income is higher & taxation far less & for once there is a light at the end of the tunnel that is not simply another train coming to mow me down .

 

Well Chryco,
I'm happy that things are going well for you in Panama. Yes, the NEP is still a sore point in western Canada. I understand the age thing you are talking about. But I do see older folks heading north too and getting well paid jobs with decent benefits. Of course, the oil and gas industry in the past has always been cyclical and who knows when the next downturn will be. That's been true with or without the old NEP. However, I think the projected demand for energy worldwide over the next decades will continue to bode well for the north. I can't, however, argue with you about the cold. A buddy of mine is actually looking into retiring early and moving to Panama.

Marty

 

Well if we can help your buddy in anyway we offer transportation services & can help with any other info he may need . Life is good here , I have not had to shovel rain once !!

 

I don't believe in small guns......but I do believe in the right to bear arms. Unfortunately in America ya just can't outlaw stupidity. Four more years and he's gone. We gotta work now to get someone in there to clean up afterwards....Reagan's never coming back. Perhaps an ex-military leader....been long time since the military has been in the White House. The world needs REAL leadership in Washington. Think we are about due.

 

You have awesome guns. I am also crazy about them. Can you please list their prices in USD or CAD. Thanks for sharing this sweet stuff.

 

SR1911 was $778.00 and the Sig P238 was $680.00. All USA money.