225 slant six rebuild/ power up.
#1
225 slant six rebuild/ power up.
ok so just desided to keep my slant six insted of putting a v8 in my 1973 dart swinger. so my question is what should i do to it to give it more power? the car has the stock everything in it. its auto and i want to make it stick also so need know how to do that and what i will need? and how much power can i get out of a 225 ?
#2
Keeping the 6.. wait on the rebuild Look for a late 70's 4sp overdrive, bell housing and related parts, 8 1/4 rear and new drive shaft... do that part first !!!!! Other wise the first time you dump the clutch the rear end is liable to come apart !!!
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1973dartswingerdms (09-20-2013)
#3
this site is THE site. http://www.slantsix.org/ first decide the intended use. 1. daily driver. 2. street racer. 3. FAST street racer. 4. full drag race. for a daily driver just dont over cam it, or over carb it. for a daily driver dont go much over 268 degree advertised duration, not .05. and. 430 lift. with a 2bbl carb off a 318. i built one long before chrysler did. be VERY sure it does not jam at wide open. and use steel tubing fore the fuel. do NOT use long lengths of hose.
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this site is THE site. http://www.slantsix.org/ first decide the intended use. 1. daily driver. 2. street racer. 3. FAST street racer. 4. full drag race. for a daily driver just dont over cam it, or over carb it. for a daily driver dont go much over 268 degree advertised duration, not .05. and. 430 lift. with a 2bbl carb off a 318. i built one long before chrysler did. be VERY sure it does not jam at wide open. and use steel tubing fore the fuel. do NOT use long lengths of hose.
I heard one of his six's run and it sounded cool and other than what I have just written, I know very little about where to start with a six. Good luck!~
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1973dartswingerdms (09-20-2013)
#6
i agree witj tvlynn. if u were here in ny i could point you in the direction for parts. get rid of that auto and get a good set of gears with a posi in it. mabey 3:55 gears. then build the engine thay way you jave a solid platform
#7
This is a mid 1970's Cast Iron A-833 A833 Chrysler 4 Speed Overdrive Transmission. Main Case (C 99129), Tail housing (C132123), Side cover (C-99386) i found this for 1,400$ is that a good price or is that to much?
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Silverick (09-21-2013)
#11
Or
http://www.thedrivenman.com/mopar/a-body.html
Goes back to what others have said Sell your Dart and Buy a V8 dart.. OR buy a V8 dart and swap the drive train into your Dart. Put the 6 into it and re sell it... Just expensive to change it.. ANY kind of 4 speed dart is going to cost $$$$$.
Another option Look around and find a Wrecked early 90's Dakota with a good drive train
Last edited by TVLynn; 09-21-2013 at 09:21 AM.
#14
your acting.like a chrysler 4 speed is hard to come by. and like a A body with a 4 spd is a big dollar car.
the guy could find a parts car that has a roached rear clip but has a v8 4 spd and buy the car for scrap weight.
the guy could find a parts car that has a roached rear clip but has a v8 4 spd and buy the car for scrap weight.
#16
A-body 4 speeds are not easy to find, they have a short tail as opposed to every other mopar on the planet using the long tail. If you can find someone parting out a Dart Lite (i think someone on the board mentioned one recently) get that trans, it has the aluminum case overdrive unit in it. the swap is not hard as long as you have everything you need, trans, floor hump, correct linkage and z-bar, pedal setup etc.I don't remember if the 904 driveshaft yoke will fit the 4 speed.
#19
4speed with granny gear SM465 and NP 208 transfer case passenger side drop with driv shafts. Sell together $250 or separate $150 each. Came out of 82 dodge
. ok thats what i found is that what i should get or is that wrong not sure exactly what i need to get im not the best at this.
. ok thats what i found is that what i should get or is that wrong not sure exactly what i need to get im not the best at this.
#20
Welcome!
I wouldn't get the SM465 unless you plan on yanking tree stumps with your Dart . The SM465 is designed for towing and hauling. Also, that guy probably has a NP435 as sm465 only came in GM trucks. Other manuals to stay away from are t4, t5, t14, t15, t18, t19, t90, t98, t176, sr4, sm420, np435. If you are not sure, just ask like you have been.
What about a manual out of a V6 Dakota? Late you can get a gen 2 version for cheap and the rear axles in them are 8.25. Only down side is that it would be a 6 lug and not 5 lug.
I wouldn't get the SM465 unless you plan on yanking tree stumps with your Dart . The SM465 is designed for towing and hauling. Also, that guy probably has a NP435 as sm465 only came in GM trucks. Other manuals to stay away from are t4, t5, t14, t15, t18, t19, t90, t98, t176, sr4, sm420, np435. If you are not sure, just ask like you have been.
What about a manual out of a V6 Dakota? Late you can get a gen 2 version for cheap and the rear axles in them are 8.25. Only down side is that it would be a 6 lug and not 5 lug.
#23
i had a 1964 dart 4 speed stock. very rare. i built a 318 2 bbl carb on the stock intake. that realy perked it up. be sure you mound the 2 bbl with the throttle shaft parallel to the crank. and do not weld the stock cast iron intake, it will warp the center ports. machine the the stock part flush. make a 1/4 plate to fit the 2 bbl carb. use counter sunk screws to hold the new plate. and double check that the throttle does NOT jam wide open. if it does and the engine overrevs it will knock out the pistons.
#24
thanks
It's sounds a bit high, I have not tried to buy one. I have never bought anything from them, Brewers Performance offers a rebuilt 23 spline 4 sp for $1299 OR a Complete package for $4k. Look for a 5 speed setup from a Dakota.
Or
http://www.thedrivenman.com/mopar/a-body.html
Goes back to what others have said Sell your Dart and Buy a V8 dart.. OR buy a V8 dart and swap the drive train into your Dart. Put the 6 into it and re sell it... Just expensive to change it.. ANY kind of 4 speed dart is going to cost $$$$$.
Another option Look around and find a Wrecked early 90's Dakota with a good drive train
Or
http://www.thedrivenman.com/mopar/a-body.html
Goes back to what others have said Sell your Dart and Buy a V8 dart.. OR buy a V8 dart and swap the drive train into your Dart. Put the 6 into it and re sell it... Just expensive to change it.. ANY kind of 4 speed dart is going to cost $$$$$.
Another option Look around and find a Wrecked early 90's Dakota with a good drive train
#26
An 8 1/4" with those 2.76 gears are considered "high" gears. They would technically work and be good for the freeway but, may be too "high" for your project.
An 8 3/4" rear end and a set of 3.23s or 3.55s may be a better selection.
An 8 3/4" rear end and a set of 3.23s or 3.55s may be a better selection.
#27
a 8:1/4 rear will be fine you can swap the gears later to somthing like a 3:55 a 8"3/4 for a a-body will bw hard to find and there a 800 dollar rear. 8:1/4 will do just fine.
the 5 speed from a 97-04 dakita will be the best there also hydrolic clutch and the nv3500 will handle power well
the 5 speed from a 97-04 dakita will be the best there also hydrolic clutch and the nv3500 will handle power well
#29
A friend & I built his slant a body last year. It went 16.4 @ 89 mph. Don't worry about a 8 3/4 there far to heavy for a 6cyl. A open center 3.32 6cyl diff is fine it'll brake traction before it brakes. My mate got a full rebuild kit from flatlander racing & upgraded the can to the comp cams 440/400 lift solid cam. I did a mild port job & cleaned up the bowls after we cut the seats for the largest over size ss valves off eBay we could find. Decked the heads & block to. 9.5:1 compression , a set of headers & 2.5" exhaust & alloy 4bbl manifold with a 450cfm volley carb. It made 126 rwhp & over 400flbs of torque . he has a 904 with a std torque convertor. He was on a ultra tight budget . if anybody want more info I'll get all the specs.
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