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Old Oct 10, 2022 | 01:34 PM
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ICM troubles

Hey all, I'm not getting any spark to my 318 5.2 v8 and I'm thinking it's the ICM however online I see all of them have 5 prong connectors I only have 2 prongs going to the box. Any ideas wassup?


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Old Oct 10, 2022 | 07:19 PM
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Not sure about the ICM, but that's the voltage regulator...

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Old Oct 10, 2022 | 07:57 PM
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Not sure about the ICM, but that's the voltage regulator...

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I did find that out after the post thank you, im still not getting any power to the distributor or no spark if you have any ideas
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Old Oct 11, 2022 | 03:57 AM
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It could be the ICM, but that's usually intermittent in early stages, a dead voltage regulator, coil, ballast resistor, relay, the dizzy itself or any of the wires connecting them.
You can replace ONE part at a time and see what happens or check for current with a multi-meter from battery on downstream.

I would do manual checks on every connection first and then start replacing parts, typically cheapest to most expensive.
Sorry, but those are usually trail and error problems and you didn't give any preceding symptoms, if any. .

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Old Oct 11, 2022 | 04:13 AM
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It started with the carburetor going out but then I decided to just give it a edlebroc and holley demon upgrade (the plan from the jump) and an HEI distribution however I seen that with hei you bypass the ballast. (What other forums mentioned) so the ECM (connected to the air filter) is disconnected but the wires were still connected to each other so I'm thinking its that for sure. If anybody has any pictures of what they have so i can use as reference I'd appreciate it. And thanks for the help
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Old Oct 11, 2022 | 04:14 AM
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It started with the carburetor going out but then I decided to just give it a edlebroc and holley demon upgrade (the plan from the jump) and an HEI distribution however I seen that with hei you bypass the ballast. (What other forums mentioned) so the ECM (connected to the air filter) is disconnected but the wires were still connected to each other so I'm thinking its that for sure. If anybody has any pictures of what they have so i can use as reference I'd appreciate it. And thanks for the help
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Old Oct 11, 2022 | 07:05 AM
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OK, you didn't say you converted to HEI. Sorry, that's not something I'm familiar with.
I would have just replaced the control unit with an orange box and new wires and be done with it.

Hopefully somebody familiar with the HEI setup will jump in.

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Old Oct 11, 2022 | 07:41 AM
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My fault on that. Yeah but I do have the old oe system bac in but when you say orange box what do you mean?
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Old Oct 11, 2022 | 07:46 AM
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Is this what you mean?
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Old Oct 12, 2022 | 07:28 AM
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The stock ECMs (ICUs) are black or blue and top out around 4500/5000 rpm. The Orange an d Chrome boxes are more performance oriented and can handle higher rpms; the Gold box is RACE ONLY and shouldn't be used on the street (not designed for extended running. The price difference between stock and the Orange or Chrome boxes isn't all that much and the entire conversion kits (box, harness and dist) aren't that expensive either.

That would be the route I'd take, but mostly because that's what I'm familiar with.

In over 40 years, I think I've had to replace two control boxes and two VRs.

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Old Oct 12, 2022 | 09:55 AM
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Your HEI should be just a one wire positive hook up?????? And then you should be good to go?????

https://performancedistributors.com/...i-distributor/

https://performancedistributors.com/professional-tips/

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Old Oct 12, 2022 | 10:47 AM
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I don't have that one but it does have a positive and negative connection and thats it but it still doesn't get spark so when I switched to the old one ( as I said fairly new) it still didn't get spark but I believe I didn't connect the wires probably thinking back on it. But is the ecu required to be connected or can that be either re wired or just tucced off and not used? I'm 26 doing my best with these older cars lol
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Old Oct 12, 2022 | 08:47 PM
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I guess we need to know what you have installed in order to really try to help....??????

Is this similar to the style you have?????

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/p...oaAgRhEALw_wcB

Shoot some photos of what your dealing with... and the whole engine compartment.... Let see whats gong on...

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Old Oct 13, 2022 | 10:21 AM
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don't judge the mess I just want it to start lol
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Old Oct 13, 2022 | 11:46 AM
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Now I got the previous coil and a new relay with the ballast connected and switched the wires. Still not getting spark to spark plugs.
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Old Oct 14, 2022 | 10:10 AM
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Ok... That Lean Burn ECU box is more than likely whats holding you back....
I think you need to convert to the other ECU Style...
https://www.mymopar.com/downloads/elecignconv.pdf

Rite now you have nothing to trigger the Distributor !!!
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/dodg...rted-t551.html

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