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Old 09-04-2011, 08:10 AM
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mopar control box "black"?

I've got a "black" ignition control box on my Mopar electronic ignition. I can't seem to find this color of box anywhere to i.d. the application level. I've seen orange & chrome boxes, each for different performance levels, but I can't seem to find a Black box. Anyone identifiy this ?
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olibass -

If it look like this

It's the OEM / factory ECU and not the HP Orange or Silver box.

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Old 09-04-2011, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Archer
olibass -

If it look like this

It's the OEM / factory ECU and not the HP Orange or Silver box.

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Yes...but mine is silver instead of gold.....same animal?
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olibassi -

If I had to guess, it's a new manufacture OEM - type replacement, or someone took a spray can to it

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Color does not matter, unless the "color" was by someone that built a "true" box, IE Mopar/ Mopar Performance, IE "orange box."

I've seen some pretty cheap IE Chineseo chrome/ black/ no name boxes

The BIG thing that DOES matter is whether they are so called 4 or 5 terminal ECU

A 4 terminal ECU can work with EITHER a 2 or 4 pin ballast resistor

A 5 terminal ECU MUST have a 4 terminal ballast resistor

Other than that, they pretty much all interchange as far as running the car, disregarding quality or performance

A 4 pin box MAY (probably?) has 5 pins. So how do you know? Use an ohmeter on the 5th terminal, turn the probes around and check both to the box case and the other terminals. If it shows a good open on all checks, it's a 4 terminal box

Here's a 4 pin wiring diagram, so the "5th pin" is the blank spot lower right

http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/Ign...ystem_4pin.jpg


Be aware that this layout is looking down at the top of the box. Some diagrams you may find are looking INTO the connector plug

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Originally Posted by Archer
olibassi -

If I had to guess, it's a new manufacture OEM - type replacement, or someone took a spray can to it

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Definitely not spray bombed......did you see the attached pic on my last post? Not good at adding pics ....had to use the "attachment" button. Shuldn't there be some part #s on it for i.d.?
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Originally Posted by 440roadrunner
Color does not matter, unless the "color" was by someone that built a "true" box, IE Mopar/ Mopar Performance, IE "orange box."

I've seen some pretty cheap IE Chineseo chrome/ black/ no name boxes

The BIG thing that DOES matter is whether they are so called 4 or 5 terminal ECU

A 4 terminal ECU can work with EITHER a 2 or 4 pin ballast resistor

A 5 terminal ECU MUST have a 4 terminal ballast resistor

Other than that, they pretty much all interchange as far as running the car, disregarding quality or performance

A 4 pin box MAY (probably?) has 5 pins. So how do you know? Use an ohmeter on the 5th terminal, turn the probes around and check both to the box case and the other terminals. If it shows a good open on all checks, it's a 4 terminal box

Here's a 4 pin wiring diagram, so the "5th pin" is the black spot lower right

http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/Ign...ystem_4pin.jpg


Be aware that this layout is looking down at the top of the box. Some diagrams you may find are looking INTO the connector plug
Thanks again 440!
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