Intake and Head Setup
#1
Intake and Head Setup
Guys I'm installing this setup at https://mbenzgram.com/collections/al...86-top-end-kit
I have a 383, 4 barrel setup.
What exhaust I should choose or keep the original exhaust?
I thank you all for your time and attention,
Ed
I have a 383, 4 barrel setup.
What exhaust I should choose or keep the original exhaust?
I thank you all for your time and attention,
Ed
#2
Mopar Lover
Ed -
Edelbrock makes good stuff and a generic answer would be headers with 1 3/4" primaries dumping into a 2.5" dual exhaust, BUT ....
What are the cam specs?
What tranny (and stall on the converter if an auto) and what differential ratio?
Archer
Edelbrock makes good stuff and a generic answer would be headers with 1 3/4" primaries dumping into a 2.5" dual exhaust, BUT ....
What are the cam specs?
What tranny (and stall on the converter if an auto) and what differential ratio?
Archer
#3
It would be silly to invest that kind of money, and put the stock cast manifolds back on. But Archer is correct, what is the application and what other changes have been made. Compression, cam, gearing. It all needs to be considered as well as application.
#4
Mopar Lover
What ever headers fit that you can find with 3" or 4" collector.....
2-1/2" tubing with some 40 or 44 series mufflers should work more than fine.
Top all that off with a Holley 780cfm or 850cfm
Just my 2 cents
2-1/2" tubing with some 40 or 44 series mufflers should work more than fine.
Top all that off with a Holley 780cfm or 850cfm
Just my 2 cents
#6
CAM Specifications are at https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performa.../7194/10002/-1
Tranny is the standard 727 however, still checking to see if my diff is either 3.23, 3.55 or 391.
Tranny is the standard 727 however, still checking to see if my diff is either 3.23, 3.55 or 391.
#7
CAM Specs - https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performa.../7194/10002/-1
Tranny Specs (Auto) - https://shiftsst.com/blog/post/charg...1966-1970.html. For the stall I will assume a range that supports up to 421 HP engine or a range between 400-450 HP.
Diff Ratio - I have a 8.75 diff and 3.23 gears
Tranny Specs (Auto) - https://shiftsst.com/blog/post/charg...1966-1970.html. For the stall I will assume a range that supports up to 421 HP engine or a range between 400-450 HP.
Diff Ratio - I have a 8.75 diff and 3.23 gears
#8
Super Moderator
I can't believe the price of cam and lifters, wow.....
#11
Can I up my gears? Perhaps 3.55 or 3.91, these gears were optional in 1970 for the Bee. I actually drive my classic cars as much as my daily driver. I drive locally and interstate. So I want to be able to do both. On the other hand, if changing my gears will affect my local and highway driving then I'll leave the 3.23.
#12
Super Moderator
With that cam I'd be thinking 3.91s and yes they and the cam will kill gas mileage.
#13
Mopar Lover
Ed -
There are plenty of gear ratio/rpm/mph calculators on line. Plug in your gear ratio(s) and see what your rpms will be at different speeds.
I ran 3.23s for decades, but switched to 3.91 a few years a go. Noticeable difference in acceleration, but yeah what Iowan said.
It's not only gas mileage, 3.91s will limit your highway cruising speeds, unless you consider an over drive unit.
For what you're describing, 3.23 or 3.55s should be optimal, and if you have 3,23s. going through the expense to get to 3.55s, isn't worth it. IMHO anyway.
Archer
There are plenty of gear ratio/rpm/mph calculators on line. Plug in your gear ratio(s) and see what your rpms will be at different speeds.
I ran 3.23s for decades, but switched to 3.91 a few years a go. Noticeable difference in acceleration, but yeah what Iowan said.
It's not only gas mileage, 3.91s will limit your highway cruising speeds, unless you consider an over drive unit.
For what you're describing, 3.23 or 3.55s should be optimal, and if you have 3,23s. going through the expense to get to 3.55s, isn't worth it. IMHO anyway.
Archer
#15
Iowan,
Is my CAM to aggressive? I was looking to get that nice lope sound and to add some more HP because I'm adding A/C. I don't want my car to shake. Just looking to have something in the middle of the road.
Thanks,
Ed
Is my CAM to aggressive? I was looking to get that nice lope sound and to add some more HP because I'm adding A/C. I don't want my car to shake. Just looking to have something in the middle of the road.
Thanks,
Ed
#16
Super Moderator
I've got a cam in my 64 Fairlane that is comparable to yours but it's a solid with more lift, my compromise gear was a 3.73, forty years ago I would have gone 4.10 or 4.30s with 4.30s being optimal. If your going AC, maybe power brakes and power steering a cam with 225 degrees of duration at 050 lift is where you need to be.
#19
Super Moderator
There is quite a difference between 225 and 238/ 246@050 lift, that 1000 rpm idle is pretty much the idle this cam will need.
#21
#22
Mopar Lover
Ed -
Opinions will vary:
750 (Holley double pumper) for drive-ability
850 (Holley double pumper) for max HP
Having run both, I'd go with the 750.
That's a good cam choice, for a street car 10" of vacuum is about where you want to be.
Archer
Opinions will vary:
750 (Holley double pumper) for drive-ability
850 (Holley double pumper) for max HP
Having run both, I'd go with the 750.
That's a good cam choice, for a street car 10" of vacuum is about where you want to be.
Archer
#25
Super Moderator
Do you have a stock converter?
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