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Old Dec 24, 2014 | 11:08 AM
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Question Body Repair Question..

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I've got a 74 Charger SE that's got a lot of Rust. Roof is bad round the sides, floor boards gone, 2 big holes on inner fender wells facing the cab ect... What would be the Easiest way to get started if i do take on this project? My biggest issue is that its outside uncovered.
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Old Dec 24, 2014 | 04:28 PM
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Find a donor car? Buy a qwanset hut to get it out of the weather. Do the doors still shut? How are the body lines and gaps? I'm thinking the structure may be compromised.
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Old Dec 24, 2014 | 05:33 PM
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Yes doors still shut fine. Structure looks ok from bottom end just a lot of surface rust on there and inside. Will get pics up soon. I hate to chuck it but dont know yet.
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Old Dec 24, 2014 | 07:34 PM
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Confirm the rails are solid.
While a donor car is a great option, finding one with a really good/workable body for a decent price may be tricky. The other option would be contacting AMD for replacement parts.

Building a structure around it would be great, if you can do it. Otherwise it's a good car cover, properly lashed down and hope for the best.

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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 06:44 AM
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K cool. When repairing Holes in the Roof, would it be best to have a donor roof or just sheet metal it? I've got 2 Rusted holes on each side above the door.
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 07:45 AM
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Find a good body shop... I have seen so many people try to fix cars themselves and totally ruin them from lack of knowledge.. Unless you are a professional body man and if you were you wouldn't be asking, leave it alone and get it done by a professional
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 05:20 PM
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K, thanks for the help you guys.
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Old Dec 26, 2014 | 01:41 PM
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1 more question, say get all the body work done but wanna leave it at Bare Metal permanently? can I do that? Could u do 1 section/piece at a time?
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Old Dec 26, 2014 | 07:07 PM
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Most honest body guys will say no.

The AMD stuff comes with a black protective coating. Under that, the bare metal, like the factory stuff will start rusting (microscopically) almost immediately without protection.

You will also have to (or should) cover the seams with filler.

If you want that look, you would at least have to clear coat it and yes, a rattle can will do.

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Old Dec 27, 2014 | 04:25 AM
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K cool, just curious in case I wanted to go the Rat Rod look. It's just a project car...
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Old Dec 27, 2014 | 06:19 AM
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Lots of knowledge need for that task....
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Old Dec 27, 2014 | 06:37 AM
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74 Charger SE as a rot-rod?
I'm starting not to like you ...

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Old Dec 27, 2014 | 08:13 AM
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Sorry bout that, just throwin it out there.
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Old Dec 27, 2014 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Archer
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74 Charger SE as a rot-rod?
I'm starting not to like you ...

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HAhahahahahahahahaha... Funny Chit rite there...
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Old Dec 28, 2014 | 06:19 AM
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I had this guy pegged right from the get go. A young guy with no clue about the muscle car era. His daily driver is a Honda civic with a Fart can exhaust which makes it a muscle car.... Get real....Bill
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 08:27 PM
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No civic just a stock mazda. I've mostly owned SUVs/trucks ok. I looked more closely at the floors and its rusted/rotted through the side of the middle crossmember that separates the front & rear floor boards. Basically it's not connected to the side of the car anymore.
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 08:22 AM
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You can still get the stuff from Year One, Classic industries, AMD and maybe one of the site sponsors...
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 08:29 AM
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K, I'll get some pics up today and let you see what I see. Again, Thanks for your help.
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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Cross member and torsion bar mounts is the most concerning part....
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 11:08 AM
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Here's Some Pics...

http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/ro...?sort=3&page=1

Last edited by Robert Weaver; Jan 1, 2015 at 12:11 PM. Reason: Pics
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 12:21 PM
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inho not worth saving
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 09:19 AM
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Would the Complete Floor be replaced easily if the Crossmember & Torsion bars are ok? I've seen prices for the whole floor $450-600 but how could the holes in the inner wheel well be fixed? Just curious.

http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/ro...?sort=3&page=1
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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Sure... Buy the pieces you can and then fab the rest..

I really like this saying...
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 10:55 AM
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Do they make the parts for the inner well holes or will those need custom work? I guess the roof work would be easier to have a donar car right?
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 07:29 PM
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Robert -

Fixable, sure - but it's going to be a project and that might include some fabrication. The rear wheel wells can be tubed if you hand to.

I would take a lot of pictures and talk to a resto place and get their take on it. A lot is going to depend on if you have the bucks for a full resto, which is what it really needs or the skill and time to do it yourself.

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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 04:14 AM
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k thanks. Its a waste of time if it sits outside uncovered though right?
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 03:10 PM
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Your just have to work faster if you leave it out doors.... Rust never sleeps... You Really should get something to help protect your project.
Im not sure what inner wheel holes are.... But I'm think you mean wheel wells... Might be a challenge to find...But after market wheel wells are available to fab in...
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 04:17 PM
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cool, the awkward pics are the wheel well areas I mentioned.
http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/ro...?sort=3&page=1
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 06:43 PM
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Robert, I would honestly get away from that car. Parts for the Gen 3 Chargers are hard to come by. I wouldn't know where to begin looking for an aftermarket roof. The floor pans can be replaced, but the rust in the wheel wells worries me. How do the quarter panels look? any rust? are the fenders is good shape. (those are a monster to repair!) If you try and find a donor car you might find one that is in better shape than the one you have. If I had to fix that car I would rip out the floor pans, order new ones. I would cut out the rust in the wheel wells and patch it up, provided that the frame rails are still in usable shape. For the roof you could make your own patch panels but it would take some doing to get them fitted right.

If you are going to fix it get a good wire welder and learn how to use it well. Other wise see if you can hold out for a project in better shape. They are around.
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