440 Volare - Page 2 - Mopar Forums
 


Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-07-2018, 08:57 AM   #31
Mopar Lover
Thread Starter
 
Iowan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Lost In Time!
Posts: 2,050
Thanked 117 Times in 117 Posts
Thumbs up Intake Manifolds

On my Volare I have used three intakes, first was a Weiand team G (mid to late 80s) next was a Mopar M1 (from 1992) and a Edelbrock Victor. Now I had dynode my 452 a year before my 500 and I ran it with the M1 first, made all the pulls, tuned and was happy with it then we put the old Weiand Team G on the 452. Now I new there was a 50 hp gain when I put the M1 on but I was not expecting what happen, the Weiand was 80 HP DOWN and did not have a predicable curve, torque or horsepower. It was JUNK!!!! No wonder I was never happy with the 452. So when I ran the 500 I started with the M1 and then went to the Victor, the M1 made a few more points in torque and the Victor made a few more in HP, so slight I'm not sure the differences would mater. My personal preference is the victor just on looks alone.

My dare to be different side says I would like to find a tunnel ram and build a pair of thermal quads for it, but I run e85, oh well.
Iowan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2018, 09:29 AM   #32
Mopar Lover
Thread Starter
 
Iowan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Lost In Time!
Posts: 2,050
Thanked 117 Times in 117 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by RacerHog View Post
It's always been nice for me to have Shane Studley from ( Percision Cylinder Heads) rite in my back yard... Awesome Mopar head Porter...
But at any rate Tom. It is always great when you can do-it-yourself and have good result's, I have always been an underdog. But when you win it's great feeling...
Hope you get going and go many rounds.... Just take lot's of seat time..... Get out and knock the rust off....
Thanks Bob,
It's been nice trading emails on this and my Ford lately, My buddy's at Grawmondbeck's Competition Engines in Mason City have gotten used to my odd combination's working. They have hands on my stuff, Joe built my little Ford and Stacey finds the last bit of HP on the engine dyno, Steve does the heads and runs the M/SA car. Stacey was a sprint car racer that even had Mopar as sponsor for a year and ran B motors, he has a story of blowing up a 400 block to the point that the bottom half of ALL the cylinders were gone with the cam and the bottom of the block!
Iowan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2018, 09:37 AM   #33
Mopar Lover
Thread Starter
 
Iowan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Lost In Time!
Posts: 2,050
Thanked 117 Times in 117 Posts
Talking about knocking the rust off, I would like to team up with a driver, I enjoy building and tuning.
Iowan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2018, 01:41 PM   #34
Mopar Lover
 
RacerHog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Monrovia SO-CAL (USA)
Posts: 6,189
Thanked 458 Times in 454 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowan View Post
On my Volare I have used three intakes, first was a Weiand team G (mid to late 80s) next was a Mopar M1 (from 1992) and a Edelbrock Victor. Now I had dynode my 452 a year before my 500 and I ran it with the M1 first, made all the pulls, tuned and was happy with it then we put the old Weiand Team G on the 452. Now I new there was a 50 hp gain when I put the M1 on but I was not expecting what happen, the Weiand was 80 HP DOWN and did not have a predicable curve, torque or horsepower. It was JUNK!!!! No wonder I was never happy with the 452. So when I ran the 500 I started with the M1 and then went to the Victor, the M1 made a few more points in torque and the Victor made a few more in HP, so slight I'm not sure the differences would mater. My personal preference is the victor just on looks alone.

My dare to be different side says I would like to find a tunnel ram and build a pair of thermal quads for it, but I run e85, oh well.

Could try a Super Victor with a 1050... All good for wide open !!!
RacerHog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2018, 01:45 PM   #35
Mopar Lover
 
RacerHog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Monrovia SO-CAL (USA)
Posts: 6,189
Thanked 458 Times in 454 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowan View Post
Thanks Bob,
It's been nice trading emails on this and my Ford lately, My buddy's at Grawmondbeck's Competition Engines in Mason City have gotten used to my odd combination's working. They have hands on my stuff, Joe built my little Ford and Stacey finds the last bit of HP on the engine dyno, Steve does the heads and runs the M/SA car. Stacey was a sprint car racer that even had Mopar as sponsor for a year and ran B motors, he has a story of blowing up a 400 block to the point that the bottom half of ALL the cylinders were gone with the cam and the bottom of the block!

Oh Ya.... I remember you telling me that, I did do a little research on them... Sounds like a good group of guys.
I agree, It has been nice to E-Mail chat with you about your projects. You just never know when you are going to come up with a good Idea someone mentions.... Good Times... Thanks... Keep me posted...
RacerHog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2018, 01:47 PM   #36
Mopar Lover
 
RacerHog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Monrovia SO-CAL (USA)
Posts: 6,189
Thanked 458 Times in 454 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowan View Post
Talking about knocking the rust off, I would like to team up with a driver, I enjoy building and tuning.
I'd almost be tempted to take you up on that driver seat.... But I think my rusty azz is about rusted out....Hahahahahahahahahaha
RacerHog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2018, 02:46 PM   #37
Mopar Lover
Thread Starter
 
Iowan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Lost In Time!
Posts: 2,050
Thanked 117 Times in 117 Posts
My idea of a driver is 150 lbs Bob, it's not me! I'd slow the car down a tenth.

Last edited by Iowan; 02-07-2018 at 02:50 PM.
Iowan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2018, 08:02 PM   #38
Mopar Lover
Thread Starter
 
Iowan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Lost In Time!
Posts: 2,050
Thanked 117 Times in 117 Posts
Thumbs up E-85

Once we had an idea of the compression ,I had forgotten, the heads with the new valves and a small cut plus a trim around the intake wall were 67cc good for 12.5 to 1 and e-85. I picked up a Holley XP 950 E-85, not something you what to do every day$. Stacey had been filling my head about how great it is, now I new how corrosive alcohol fuel is from working at an excavation co. and having to repair equipment. I also new about the H2o absorption and how it didn't store. But I now the cost of race gas and how much of a pig this combination is and I do intend on street driving it!


And just like the video my carb was dead on out of the box.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/h...5hbx/overview/
Iowan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 11:23 AM   #39
Mopar Lover
 
RacerHog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Monrovia SO-CAL (USA)
Posts: 6,189
Thanked 458 Times in 454 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowan View Post
My idea of a driver is 150 lbs Bob, it's not me! I'd slow the car down a tenth.
If I was in the seat.... We would need more power... we would off at least 1-sec.....Hahahahahaha
RacerHog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 11:30 AM   #40
Mopar Lover
 
RacerHog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Monrovia SO-CAL (USA)
Posts: 6,189
Thanked 458 Times in 454 Posts
All I can say about the fuel system..... Is.... They both have Pro's and Con's.. Both take work to fund...lol
RacerHog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 01:16 PM   #41
Mopar Lover
Thread Starter
 
Iowan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Lost In Time!
Posts: 2,050
Thanked 117 Times in 117 Posts
It's going to be one big plastic fuel cell in the trunk!!!!
I have quick fuel pump and return regulator on the Ford but I doubt the 500 would return much.
Iowan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 02:32 PM   #42
Mopar Lover
 
RacerHog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Monrovia SO-CAL (USA)
Posts: 6,189
Thanked 458 Times in 454 Posts
No Paper Filters....
RacerHog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2018, 03:17 PM   #43
Mopar Lover
Thread Starter
 
Iowan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Lost In Time!
Posts: 2,050
Thanked 117 Times in 117 Posts
Just in my shorts.
Iowan is online now   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1976 Plymouth Volare christian76 Do-It-yourself Section 3 02-01-2015 05:52 AM
My 80 Volare Duster Project 80VDuster New Members 17 08-13-2008 03:45 PM
1980 Plymouth Volare 4DSD for sale richinny Mopar Classifieds 2 07-01-2008 04:48 PM
windshield wiper linkage for Volaré 78.... Piero General Technical Questions 17 05-02-2008 10:26 AM
Got my volare in primer 79mopower Street n Strip 0 04-14-2007 06:03 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:33 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.