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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 06:31 PM
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Lets see what it dose.....

All the other guys are spot on with their info... But will get to that point in just a bit.
But lets see if we can get where we can read the timing first..

I'm just looking for a specific answer back....

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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 05:33 PM
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ok , just waiting on the warmer air. ( may be awhile) lol Soon as I can I'll report back. Hope your enjoying the holiday. Al
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 05:43 PM
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 06:22 PM
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It's out?
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 05:09 AM
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No. , it's before lol. Started yesterday with the new gun & tried setting to 14 at idle around 900 rpm. It's moving / not steady to the point it's hard to tell what's it's on. But it's close to 14. Starts and runs easy and is better but when I tried going up it starts running rough higher you go rougher it seems to get. May be all from battery that says charged but I suspect is bad. It's old anyways and am needing a new utility battery. Getting a new battery today and try again. Shouldn't it settle down when trying to set ?
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 06:49 AM
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Not enough volts will do things to the ignition for sure as the rpm goes up. Should have had you check volts at coil with it running, I chased that for a week or three one time.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 06:59 AM
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Ok will check at coil. Going to go now and p/u new battery. I'll get back later today, hopefully. Al
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 07:36 AM
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Do you have an alternator on the car or do you charge between rounds? A bad or weak battery could make all the difference.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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Ok set at 14 idle. Raved to 3000 and it stopped ,,,,,, I believe. Going to try again to make sure but it looked to be stalling at 30. Going to check again.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 12:15 PM
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Timing

We charge them but I bought a new on for a all purpose battery I'm using.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 02:18 PM
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Are good buddy Chad Reynolds has a good video for you too look at for some understanding....
Chad only lives about a 20 drive from me... Great guy... See him often..(Mr. BangShift).



Ultimately>>>>>
Total: between 32-38* of timing @ a RPM range 0f 2500 RPM is what we are looking for.


Soooo... Let just look at the numbers that you gave us.....
Idle: 14*
3000 rpm: 30*
Total: 16* Advance timing.
This would be not enough for total timing...

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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 02:59 PM
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The reason I quit at 3000 is it seemed to bottom out around there and the 30 was staying pretty constant. That's what is messing with me , not sure what's in dizzy so you add that say 14 to as the example 30 is 44. So For an example if you have 10 int. And you want 36 would you look for 26 on balancer or 36? I thought you had to add them. So it's going to show on the balancer a number minus the int. Timing.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 03:01 PM
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Then if you are using a digital do you set say 36 and look for tdc on balancer?
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Skynyrd
Then if you are using a digital do you set say 36 and look for tdc on balancer?
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 03:17 PM
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yes.....

Just a foot note..... You can do what you stated above.... set it at 36*@ 2500rpm.... And what ever it is when it drops to idle is what it is....
As long as its not hard to start.. your ok for a base line at the moment...
You can adjust later if you feel it needs more timing or if you hear it Knock with detonation at all you can back the time out....
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RacerHog
yes.....

Just a foot note..... You can do what you stated above.... set it at 36*@ 2500rpm.... And what ever it is when it drops to idle is what it is....
As long as its not hard to start.. your ok for a base line at the moment...
You can adjust later if you feel it needs more timing or if you hear it Knock with detonation at all you can back the time out....
It's starting really good right now my trouble or rough running starts about2000 or so then higher I go the rougher it seems to get. So tomorrow I'll try setting the digital light which says it works on any distributor to 36 then 2500 look for tdc on balancer to line up with zero on pointer. Then see where it ends up. Also will try old reg. timing light which if I do means that I will be actually looking for the number 36 ? Or new digital and zero then look for 36? Thanks Al

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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RacerHog
yes.....

Just a foot note..... You can do what you stated above.... set it at 36*@ 2500rpm.... And what ever it is when it drops to idle is what it is....
As long as its not hard to start.. your ok for a base line at the moment...
You can adjust later if you feel it needs more timing or if you hear it Knock with detonation at all you can back the time out....
It's starting really good right now my trouble or rough running starts about2000 or so then higher I go the rougher it seems to get. So tomorrow I'll try setting the digital light which says it works on any distributor to 36 then 2500 look for tdc on balancer to line up with zero on pointer. Then see where it ends up. I don't understand this say 14 int. And 30 total is to much then how can you look for 36 on balancer and still have advance in distributor but don't count it, lol. I know I could have explained that better. Al
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 05:50 PM
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It might be time to back up and find TDC in the hole on #1, on the damper and the distributor, verify a full 12 volts and ground at the box and 12 volts coil verify all wiring at the box to and from, verify all grounds and last thing borrow a box from someone and see if that takes care of it.

It just might be one you fix thru process of elimination.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 06:25 PM
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Dist. is only adding 14*....

Let not get to far away from trying to fix the problem at the moment.

This is not pulling far enough to cause the problem that I was looking for.
I first thought that maybe the dist. was advancing somewhere in the 50's or 60* range causing the missing issue from the original post. That does not appear to be the case at this point.

Iowan, has kindly taking us into the next phase of coping with the issue at hand that might be a voltage problem that needs to be addressed.

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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 06:45 PM
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It's just never sounded like " timing " to me.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowan
It's just never sounded like " timing " to me.
I was just running under the assumption that all the rest was in good working order from the last time it was out running...
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 07:08 PM
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The big variable is it was his dad's car, dad knew everything about it now he's got a sharp learning curve, so it could be one simple overlooked connection or switch on.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 07:12 PM
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Very True...
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 09:42 AM
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Any luck Al ?????
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 10:06 AM
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Timing

I wouldn't say I'm at the beginning of the big curve lol but I admit I am only in the starting stages on this timing deal. I have yet heard some answers to some of the questions I posted above. Like what I was asking about int advance being either added to arrive at total. If so how come you don't add it when your looking for a number on the balancer.
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 10:07 AM
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Getting ready to fire it up again and see what we can do.
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 10:23 AM
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Good luck.............
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 12:47 PM
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Sorry I see where I added the confusion..My Bad.. the total would have read, you are only getting 16* out of the Dist. and you need 36* for a total. so you would need 22* in the Dist. to advance it far enough to make it to 36* total.

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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 01:01 PM
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Sorry I see where I added the confusion..My Bad.. the total would have read, you are only getting 16* out of the Dist. and you need 36* for a total. so you would need 22* in the Dist. to advance it far enough to make it to 36* total.
You talking to your self or did I miss something?
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 01:44 PM
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lol... No i wrote some bad info.... But I have corrected it.....
However.. I do talk to myself allot.... I just dont write to myself...
Will see what happens here....
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