Want to start my first project....
01-25-2009, 02:49 PM
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I try to pass on my years of experience, and still I cant get through. Please don't buy anything now. If you don't have the money to buy a toy 
(or mostly) you shouldn't be buying toys like this. The car you are looking at is maxed out its value. If you put another $10,000.00 into it, the value will not change. The 'Cuda is a much better buy. At this time you can't afford either one. Save your money, you'll be glad you did. There I said it, you wont listen, I didn't either.
(or mostly) you shouldn't be buying toys like this. The car you are looking at is maxed out its value. If you put another $10,000.00 into it, the value will not change. The 'Cuda is a much better buy. At this time you can't afford either one. Save your money, you'll be glad you did. There I said it, you wont listen, I didn't either.
01-27-2009, 07:22 PM
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Challenger is right, old mopars are considerably more expensive to restore than chevys and fords, but as long as you stay away from the big names (charger, challenger, cuda...) you could find something in your budget. I'm personally fond of the Dart. Two-doors with a small block are easy to find. Plus, with all the junkyard, late-model magnums and hemis (there are a dozen totaled hemi rams for sale here around little rock) you could build something really cool without breaking the bank. Could you imgine a 5.7 hemi Swinger!?! You could even snag some 20" rims off a Ram. That'd be Awesome!
01-28-2009, 02:58 PM
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You guys are forgetting something important in this whole discussion. The car type doesn't matter. The cost of restoration is almost the same regardless of the car you choose.
That sound outrageous, and before anyone says BULL$HIT, I'll explain.
1. The engine doesn't know what car it is going in. Dart or 'Cuda same engine choices same cost.
2. Transmission/Rear same thing car doesn't matter
3. Paint and body. Other than condition, the Dart and the 'Cuda take the same amount of paint, sand paper, primer... Same.
4. Do you think quarters for a 'Cuda cost more than Darts? Nope, almost the same.
5. Check legendary, the upholstery, carpet, headliner... all the same (within a couple bucks)
6. Wiring, brakes, tires, wheels, headers/exhaust, etc... all the same
Now lets compare final value, the same restoration costs on a Dart or a 'Cuda. which is worth more finished? We all know that answer. I am building project Dart, not because it was cheaper but because that is what I wanted when it is done.
The only cost difference is the actual vehicle cost at the begining. The prices of a decent project car is not that far different at the begining of the project compared to the final value when finished. The better the car you start with the better the car you have when you are finished.
If you are building for investment, build the car wrth the most when done. If you are building the car of your dreams, you can't shop by price.
That sound outrageous, and before anyone says BULL$HIT, I'll explain.
1. The engine doesn't know what car it is going in. Dart or 'Cuda same engine choices same cost.
2. Transmission/Rear same thing car doesn't matter
3. Paint and body. Other than condition, the Dart and the 'Cuda take the same amount of paint, sand paper, primer... Same.
4. Do you think quarters for a 'Cuda cost more than Darts? Nope, almost the same.
5. Check legendary, the upholstery, carpet, headliner... all the same (within a couple bucks)
6. Wiring, brakes, tires, wheels, headers/exhaust, etc... all the same
Now lets compare final value, the same restoration costs on a Dart or a 'Cuda. which is worth more finished? We all know that answer. I am building project Dart, not because it was cheaper but because that is what I wanted when it is done.
The only cost difference is the actual vehicle cost at the begining. The prices of a decent project car is not that far different at the begining of the project compared to the final value when finished. The better the car you start with the better the car you have when you are finished.
If you are building for investment, build the car wrth the most when done. If you are building the car of your dreams, you can't shop by price.
01-28-2009, 09:45 PM
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when you talk values yes me i agree with you but, i got 2 66 sp furiys worth 20,000 tops to a private seller. a collector wants 100 percent maybe 98% complete show room floor. i can buy a dart for 1500 or a beat up 1971 hemi cuda convert for 250,000.00 what can i afford? really? me a 1985 plymouth tc3. no but really they may all cost the same to be rebuilt but the buy it now price is what gets us to buy it. i know what you are saying and i agree. but most of us have a "K" car budget.
01-29-2009, 02:36 AM
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when you talk values yes me i agree with you but, i got 2 66 sp furiys worth 20,000 tops to a private seller. a collector wants 100 percent maybe 98% complete show room floor. i can buy a dart for 1500 or a beat up 1971 hemi cuda convert for 250,000.00 what can i afford? really? me a 1985 plymouth tc3. no but really they may all cost the same to be rebuilt but the buy it now price is what gets us to buy it. i know what you are saying and i agree. but most of us have a "K" car budget.
02-03-2009, 03:04 PM
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if you are still looking for a mopar theres quite a few here in jacksonville Fl on craigslist and flouting around town i found a stash of like 6-8 mopars today on some peice of property when i was takin the back way home and im goin to try and get some pics so you guys can see and might try and buy some off the person who has them
O yea try and find a Volare that was my first real mopar that i drove around and didnt just buy it to sell it. i loved that car
O yea try and find a Volare that was my first real mopar that i drove around and didnt just buy it to sell it. i loved that car
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06-02-2010, 02:03 PM
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great advice c4c (and everyone)...exactly the information i was looking for. i assume this advice crosses lines between auto makers as well....so one can't make a statement such as "the cost of mopar restoration is higher than the cost of gm, ford, chev"... granted, i'm not taking into account purchase price or completed value price...just restoration cost of a vehicle who's parts are not hard to find.
Basically, i hear people tell me not to do a mopar project because the cost of restoration is much higher compared with the other makers...but it would be nice to be able to blow those people off.
I like the Dart/Hemi advice by Aaron, cuz lord knows in a year or so it will be a helluva day if i can find even a late 60's barracuda fastback, drivable, and in my budget range.
till that day i'll keep preparing the garage nest...which is also a lot of fun.
Basically, i hear people tell me not to do a mopar project because the cost of restoration is much higher compared with the other makers...but it would be nice to be able to blow those people off.
I like the Dart/Hemi advice by Aaron, cuz lord knows in a year or so it will be a helluva day if i can find even a late 60's barracuda fastback, drivable, and in my budget range.
till that day i'll keep preparing the garage nest...which is also a lot of fun.
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06-03-2010, 09:00 AM
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reread what crazy4carz said and put your wallet back in your pocket if you feel like you must have an old car get a 70 dart so that way i can get it off of you when you are tired of it i've seen to many people get something and tell everyone there going to fix it up tear it all apart then either scrap it or sell it for a junk price
goodluck either way
Terry
goodluck either way
Terry
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